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The Fed may have triggered the '08 crash by accident
The Hill ^ | 09/15/18 | DOUG CARR

Posted on 09/15/2018 7:36:39 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: Robert A Cook PE

Why is the Gop not Running on Stopping Nancy Pelosi
from destroying the economy again like she did in 2008 ?

That a Great 2018 midterm AD .

Gop are you listening here ?


21 posted on 09/15/2018 7:52:11 AM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves ever w)
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To: yesthatjallen

I have always believed it was intentional and orchestrated.


22 posted on 09/15/2018 7:53:48 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (A woman's right to choose: except for rape, she can choose NOT to have sex.)
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To: yesthatjallen

I remember a congressman, from Pennsylvania I think, that came forward and stated that someone was making a run and selling off stocks or something and Bush closed the markets early. He gave one interview and was silent after that. FReepers figured it was Soros that precipitated the crash and the CongressCritter was silenced..


23 posted on 09/15/2018 7:55:35 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: yesthatjallen; All

Yes Bush was President, but the Congress was Democrat. Before this event, McCain was still leading in the polls. When this happened, McCain suspended his campaign to go to DC and vote in the Senate to fix this. Obama, oh so coolly, announced ‘if they need me, they can call me’. Obama immediately rose in the polls and the rest is history. Does anyone think Obama didn’t know what was going on?? His pResidency was orchestrated to give the Globalists all the power. I’m hoping his 8 years wasn’t enough and we can rise like a Phoenix from the ashes of his destructive pResidency. Trump has made a good start.


24 posted on 09/15/2018 8:00:14 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: yesthatjallen

Democrats, Democrat policies, Democrat inaction, and Democrats telling Republicans they were lying about a coming financial crisis - even calling it a “lynching.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebWJ892h5dA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90X74V-hS7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMPPGlOpUiM


25 posted on 09/15/2018 8:00:54 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: bgill

I remember when McCain stopped campaigning to rush back to DC.

I thought at that time - after this this crisis and the Obama cult of personality, he doesn’t have a chance against the “hope and change” express.


26 posted on 09/15/2018 8:03:06 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: yesthatjallen

It started when someone withdrew billions from the money market in the space of two hours.
It was a financial attack, an act of war that then president Bush mentioned.
And then it was quickly covered up.


27 posted on 09/15/2018 8:03:41 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: deadrock
"Bush stepped in the $#@/ too."

Putting that aside, the economic collapse began when Nancy Pelosi's democrats took over the HoR in 2006. People saw what was coming and in natural self preservation began the contraction in economic activity.

28 posted on 09/15/2018 8:04:44 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: yesthatjallen

There are no coincidences. Cui bono?


29 posted on 09/15/2018 8:06:05 AM PDT by No.6
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yep. Can’t remember his name, but I do remember he was a Democrat. He’s no longer in the Congress (surprise, surprise).


30 posted on 09/15/2018 8:06:09 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: Mouton

I predict that eventually the student loan issue will result in loans being written off. It could happen in stages. For example, they could first change bankruptcy laws so that student loans can be discharged in bankruptcy. Then, decisions could be made for loan repayments to be limited to a small percentage of their income, with the rest being written off.

When people such as that Ocasio-Cortez woman get in positions of power, a mindset that these poor students shouldn’t have to repay, will result in policy decisions which wipe out their loan debt.


31 posted on 09/15/2018 8:06:41 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Darksheare
Yup! And Bush closed the market to stop the run.
Didn't Soros try the same thing in Britain?
32 posted on 09/15/2018 8:07:06 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Darksheare

George Soros was behind it I’m sure. He’s done this before, wanted in Hungary and other countries.
“Destroying America will be the culmination of my life’s work”
He’s tanked the currencies in several countries.


33 posted on 09/15/2018 8:07:43 AM PDT by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6)
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To: deadrock; Abby4116; thinden; Diana in Wisconsin; jimfree; bgill; Alberta's Child; FreedomPoster; ...

Democrats, Democrat policies, Democrat inaction, and Democrats telling Republicans they were lying about a coming financial crisis - even calling it a “lynching” of Franklin Raines to suggest anything was wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebWJ892h5dA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90X74V-hS7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMPPGlOpUiM


34 posted on 09/15/2018 8:07:58 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: originalbuckeye

I think he gave one interview about it, there used to be video, then he disappeared.


35 posted on 09/15/2018 8:08:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Mouton

“Wait till the school debt crisis hits. At least with real estate there was a building left to sell.”

Absolutely. Giving student loans to heads full of mush majoring in creative writing, ethnic studies, or just about any other “humanities” with no prospect of them being able to repay it is way worse than no-down, interest only liars loans to people with no or part time jobs.

I listen to Dave Ramsey every so often and the number of people calling in saddled with huge student loans is stunning.

I wonder what the red flag will be warning the bubble is about to burst.


36 posted on 09/15/2018 8:10:57 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If the degrees being handed out were worth the paper they are printed on this wouldn’t be an issue. If it is a good investment, you would have the income as a result of the degree to pay the loans.


37 posted on 09/15/2018 8:11:50 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Keb

The author is knowledgeable about economics so his chatter sounds like it must be informed. Your analysis is correct however and his is wrong.

Government forced sub-prime market collapsed and then hidden killer trades and movements to kick the wobbly legs and bring it all down. Lots of misdirection since.


38 posted on 09/15/2018 8:17:18 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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EXCERPT---FOURTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS Behind The Real Size of the Bailout;
A guide to the abbreviations, acronyms, and obscure programs that make up the $14 trillion federal bailout of Wall Street
SOURCE motherjones.com --- Mon Dec. 21, 2009 12:23 PM PST

The price tag for the Wall Street bailout is popularly put at $787 billion—---the actual size of TARP--the Troubled Assets Relief Program. But TARP is just the best known program in an array of more than 30 overseen by Treasury Department and Federal Reserve that have paid out or put aside untraceable money to bail out financial firms and inject money into the markets.

To get a sense of the size of the real $14 trillion bailout, see MJ chart at web site. A guide to the pieces of the puzzle includes massive untraceable Treasury Department bailout programs.

Money Market Mutual Fund: In September 2008, the Treasury controlled by Obama/Emanuel announced that it would insure the holdings of publicly offered money market mutual funds. According to the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (SIGTARP), these guarantees could have potentially cost the federal government more than $3 trillion [PDF].

Public-Private Investment Fund: This joint Treasury-Federal Reserve program bought toxic assets from banks and brokerages—as much as $5 billion of assets per firm. According to SIGTARP, the government's potential exposure from the PPIF is between $500 million and $1 trillion [PDF].

TARP: As part of the Troubled Asset Relief Program, the Treasury controlled by Obama/Emanuel made loans to or investments more than 750 banks and financial institutions. $650 billion has been paid out (not including HAMP; see below). As of December 21, 2009, $117.5 billion of that has been repaid.

Government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) stock purchase: The Treasury controlled by Obama/Emanuel bought $200 million in preferred stock from Fannie Mae and another $200 million from Freddie Mac [PDF] to show that they "will remain viable entities critical to the functioning of the housing and mortgage markets."

GSE mortgage-backed securities purchase: Under the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008, the Treasury controlled by Obama/Emanuel may buy mortgage-backed securities from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. According to SIGTARP, these purchases could cost as much as $314 billion ---SNIP---.

LONG READ---go to web site to read more and checkout the shocking financial charts.

SOURCE http://motherjones.com/politics/2009/12/behind-real-size-bailout

39 posted on 09/15/2018 8:20:19 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: yesthatjallen

I have always thought this was engineered by the Dems as their ‘October surprise’.


40 posted on 09/15/2018 8:21:05 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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