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No list exists as this is pure 100% speculation. President Trump needs to tweet the challenge, "Show me the names!"
1 posted on 09/16/2018 9:29:50 AM PDT by Reno89519
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Better yet, Show me the graves, Show me the death certificates!


2 posted on 09/16/2018 9:31:07 AM PDT by Shady (We WON the Battle, Now let's WIN THE WAR!!!!)
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Yes. We need the list so we can properly mourn the loss of each and every individual.


4 posted on 09/16/2018 9:33:58 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government...)
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No doubt PDJT ordered any list destroyed.


5 posted on 09/16/2018 9:34:24 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Wonder how much we paid for the study. Wonder how much we paid for the "terrible" results.

This study was about as unscientific as it gets.

It was based on deaths of the previous years and how many more this year.

Of course, 3000 skipped town. My guess...if you were missing, you were assumed dead.

Wonder how many ILLEGAL ALIENS hop skipped to Florida with no ID and swore up and down they were Puerto Rican.

9 posted on 09/16/2018 9:40:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Check with the Democrat Voter registrar in San Juan....


10 posted on 09/16/2018 9:41:14 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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Good post...
Count the Death Certificates!


12 posted on 09/16/2018 9:42:49 AM PDT by BobNative
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Yeah, this methodology sure looks sketchy...


14 posted on 09/16/2018 9:45:48 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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This Wikipedia article gives a good overview of how the numbers were manufactured detailing all those involved in expanding the criteria for deaths during a hurricane.

It's a good resource:

Hurricane Maria death toll controversy

15 posted on 09/16/2018 9:47:03 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Don’t worry, they’ll come up with a list of names. I’d ask for death certificates.


18 posted on 09/16/2018 9:52:53 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (They never thought she would lose.)
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There are no 3,000 deaths...there never were 3,000 deaths. Those reported deaths by the Governor of Puerto Rico and the Democrat, Socialist, Communist, Progressive Mayor of San Juan, PR, are nothing but figments of imagination in the the minds of these two incompetent, failed politicians.

The people of Puerto Rico and the millions Puerto Ricans, over the years that scurried away from PR to make lives and homes in the continental USA, know very well the evil, painful, economic shortcomings of governance in PR. They all headed for the promised land, the USA where they could make something out of themselves, which they did by the millions, just as Mexican-Americans & Cuban-Americans have also done.

The Puerto Ricans, here in the US and in PR will never have a better friend and ally in the USA Whitehouse like POTUS, Donald J. Trump. Remember, Puerto Ricans, PR is a stand alone island in the Caribbean Sea many miles from the shore of Florida and the USA. Trump ordered and commanded massive air & sea military, electric power repair from the USA, that had to flown in or arrive by ship, and commercial forces into action to assist, keep safe, feed & house, restore electrical power, and protect the island. This he, Trump did, not your elected low life Democrat failed scum and vermin so-called leaders.

This question is simple and provides the answer...”How many Puerto Rican-American citizens fled the island of PR and are now living in the continental USA, and how many Puerto Rican_Americans remained in PR? Had Trump not taken the immediate actions he did, the magnificent, beautiful paradise of PR would have died in the ocean...killed by your duly elected failed, Governor of PR and Mayor of San Juan, PR. Wake up Puerto Ricans...all!!! Case closed!!!


21 posted on 09/16/2018 9:54:05 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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Wouldn’t 3,000 dead people be a huge percentage of the people of Puerto Rico?


22 posted on 09/16/2018 9:54:47 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (They never thought she would lose.)
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Jose.
Juan.
Juan.
Maria.
Maria.
Jose.
Jesus.
Gorge.
Maria.
(repeat 300 times)


25 posted on 09/16/2018 10:03:34 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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We absolutely need that since a lot of them are collecting benefits in Florida


26 posted on 09/16/2018 10:10:15 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jeffersons)
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Apparently no Juan can tell us.


27 posted on 09/16/2018 10:11:55 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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My question is, who requested and paid for the study? I think this will determine it’s worthiness. I also want to know the political activity for the last 10 years of those gathering and manipulating the data. Their data criteria was skewed on purpose I suspect. Like Mueller, trying to find a crime to blame on the suspect.
28 posted on 09/16/2018 10:14:53 AM PDT by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction.)
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Democrats think they’re pulling one over on Trump.

But, if they were to think about it, the number of deaths they came up with, is an indictment against their policies and governance of the island. Puerto Rico’s infrastructure and the inhabitants unpreparedness, are all indictments of how poorly the democratic policies were and are, and the damage is wholly the fault of the lack of leadership that has had the islanders prisoners of the economic disasters that the liberal/socialist policies of democrats have brought to the island.

The lack of infrastructure and the poverty and the lack of preparations, all point back to the democrats. Trump was president for a mere 8 months, and the damage that was impacted on P.R. all occurred on the democrats’ watch.

Trump and republicans should be turning these phony accusations and finger-pointing right back at the democrats.


29 posted on 09/16/2018 10:27:19 AM PDT by adorno
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Don’t need it

64 was the official number, bodies that were recovered.

President Trump is not responsible for the storm

The response was great considering the factors involved.

It is insulting the Puerto Rican government would commission this study at $300,000 while begging for money that they are broke.

We need to point that fact. Don’t argue the numbers, it is stupid, argue the point that the Puerto Rican government spent $300,000 for a piece of propaganda while claiming to be broke.


31 posted on 09/16/2018 10:37:20 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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Donald Trump took away all of their pens and pencils and paper. Trump has also forced them to eat everything else that can be written on.

Thats why there is no list. Trump banned lists and reading and writing for all Puerto Ricans because he is racist and so are you.

/s


35 posted on 09/16/2018 11:05:33 AM PDT by Celerity
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I know this 3,000 number came from vague models, not actual data. I admit I know very little about the calculations.

But I was wondering about the Puerto Ricans who left there to come to America permanently during and after the hurricane. Is that number being considered in the models and maybe they’re in the total presumed dead? Like I said, I’m clueless, but still...

If those people aren’t dying in P.R. now but live in the USA instead, that might bugger the numbers.


36 posted on 09/16/2018 11:06:03 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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Off topic to this discussion is the the number of births in Puerto Rico has gone from 42,000 in 2011 to 28,000 in 2017. That is a huge drop, especially for a Hispanic population. There were actually more deaths than births in 2016 to 2017 (pre Maria). [Census data is either as of July 1 or for July to June of a year.] This was not a one time drop, but is a gradual decline.

This is on top of the out migration that has been happening for the last several years. The total poulation went from 3.7 million in 2010 to 3.3 million in 2017.

You really could not do a proper statistical analysis for a least a year after the event. You would need to look at the both and death info for the years before, during and after.


37 posted on 09/16/2018 11:18:58 AM PDT by Steven Scharf
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