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Caver sues Elon Musk for defamation
CNN ^ | September 17, 2018 | Danielle Wiener-Bronner

Posted on 09/17/2018 4:27:52 PM PDT by PAR35

Vernon Unsworth, the caver accused by Elon Musk of being a pedophile, filed a defamation lawsuit against the Tesla CEO on Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clintonnonnews; cnn; dwienerbronner; elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; musk; spacex; thailand; vernonunsworth
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Suit was filed in federal court California. Plaintiff is planning to file another in the UK.
1 posted on 09/17/2018 4:27:52 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Musk shouldn’t have said it, and shouldn’t have doubled down on it.


2 posted on 09/17/2018 4:32:00 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: PAR35

[Elon Musk] == [Asperger’s spectrum]


3 posted on 09/17/2018 4:33:03 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: PAR35

When he commits suicide its going to be epic


4 posted on 09/17/2018 4:35:53 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: PAR35

Well Elon you got your wish. (Paragraph 97 of the lawsuit)

https://twitter.com/kadhimshubber/status/1041749437368987650


5 posted on 09/17/2018 4:39:36 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: PAR35

He might win in the UK, but doubtful in the US. He made himself a public figure, which would make a win difficult here.


6 posted on 09/17/2018 4:41:14 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yep. That was waaaayyyy out of line.

Unsworth criticized Musk’s sub as a PR stunt and Musk acts like a 4th grader.

Hope Vern gets a lot of money.


7 posted on 09/17/2018 4:43:45 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: PAR35

Oh yeal, who ever pays to ride this crazy bass poles rocket into space will win the Darwin Award.
It may never be surpassed.


8 posted on 09/17/2018 4:47:51 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: PAR35
Musk believes that everybody think of him as a genius and that they all love him and can't do any wrong in whatever project he gets involved in.

Then, when he's challenged by a nobody, Musk acts like a schoolyard bully and lashes out with insults.

Genius: NOT!

Dumbass: YUP!
9 posted on 09/17/2018 4:50:30 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Moonman62

I think he’s got a good chance to prevail in the US; Musk made a specific accusation which carries a heck of a lot of onus, especially in the middle of rescuing youth. If it had been ‘acts like a’ instead, I think Musk would be clear.

I’m thinking someone missed their phone call to put forward a settlement package and that this will swiftly be corrected. Especially with the sorry not sorry apology.


10 posted on 09/17/2018 4:56:12 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Well Elon you got your wish. (Paragraph 97 of the lawsuit)

https://twitter.com/kadhimshubber/status/1041749437368987650

He has an excellent lawyer! I think Musk will settle (undisclosed terms) but Mr. Unsworth should be set for life.

11 posted on 09/17/2018 5:01:33 PM PDT by Sooth2222 (Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.")
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To: Moonman62

A few points as to your observation.

1. Musk made him a public figure. He wasn’t really one before, particularly in the US. (Can you name off the top of your head, any of the other rescuers?

2. The publications were libel per se.

3. Even a public figure can sue if there is actual malice. Musk has laid a pretty good framework upon which the trier of fact could reach such a conclusion.

Going back to the Public Figure issue - most folks would concede that Wally Butts and Bear Bryant were pretty well known back in the day. Butts won against the Saturday Evening Post (well, the parent company).

And Sullivan, Butts, and Herbert were tailored to protect the corporate media. Here, there’s an individual (although one with ties to the deep state) on the other end of the suit.


12 posted on 09/17/2018 5:02:25 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: adorno

It wouldn’t shock me if Musk rode into space on his rocket, then opened the door planning to walk out.


13 posted on 09/17/2018 5:05:02 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: jiggyboy

That was a good find.


14 posted on 09/17/2018 5:05:52 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The settlement (if there is one, Musk may refuse) will be small by Musk standards.

The Saudis are investing in a startup that aims to compete with Tesla. Did that sink in? The Saudis. From Saudi Arabia.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Lucid+Saudi+funding


15 posted on 09/17/2018 5:29:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: PAR35

in the US it is almost impossible to sue for libel, but he has a good chance of winning in the UK.


16 posted on 09/17/2018 5:31:04 PM PDT by LadyDoc (Liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Moonman62
He might win in the UK, but doubtful in the US. He made himself a public figure, which would make a win difficult here.

It is a huge stretch to conclude that he made himself a public figure to the extent that he would be precluded from suing for defamation. Public figures for that purpose are folks who make their livings by being in the public eye, such as actors, musicians and politicians. The idea is that when you decide to make your living by putting your face in the public arena you have to take the bad with the good. This guy was not one of those people. Also, even public figures can successfully sue for defamation if there was actual malice. I wouldn't want to be Musk's attorney trying to defend him in court, US or otherwise. That said, it will settle well before it gets to court.

17 posted on 09/17/2018 5:39:12 PM PDT by KevinB (ue)
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To: PAR35

Wouldn’t surprise me if Musk is right about this guy


18 posted on 09/17/2018 6:15:13 PM PDT by Third Person (Without double standards the left would have no standards at all.)
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To: al baby

We’ll find out how fast the highest end modifed Tesla will go.


19 posted on 09/17/2018 6:47:43 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Third Person

I would be surprised if Musk was right.


20 posted on 09/17/2018 7:30:17 PM PDT by PAR35
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