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Pelosi/Schumer/Schiff/Warner order intel agencies to ignore declassify until they are consulted
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Posted on 09/18/2018 6:36:25 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

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To: Will88
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I think you're mixing up what a president can do, and what he politically can do.

The president is the ultimate authority, but he relies on qualified experts in the affected field.

Policy is that technology is born secret, but it is not an ironclad rule.

Truman and Eisenhower sidestepped that often. Clinton side stepped it routinely for China.

241 posted on 09/19/2018 4:48:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Bigtigermike

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Pelosi/Schumer/Schiff/Warner have absolutely no authority in this matter.

Congress has zero executive power.


242 posted on 09/19/2018 4:52:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; All
Your post #225:

"2) In the midterms, elect not just R senators, BUT THOSE WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE, NOT THE BUREAUCRATS, RULE."

Needed more cow bell 😉.

243 posted on 09/19/2018 5:11:28 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't waiting. Do it today.)
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To: editor-surveyor

There are specific laws that govern how classified information is to be handled and the president and Congress are subject to those laws (everyone but Hillary). I think what President Trump is currently doing is ordering his bureaucrat subordinates to turn over documents to the WH that they have improperly refused to provide to Congress.

He is not making some sweeping declassification of the documents. A WH spokesman said this would be a process, and the documents would be closely reviewed to determine if any part should remain classified. They will review the documents to see what the bureaucrats have held back improperly to cover their own assess and their bureaucracies rather than for legitimate national security reasons.

But the notion some seem to have that a president can declassify anything is nonsense. And some in the media are practically saying a president can declassify anything they choose.


244 posted on 09/19/2018 6:01:39 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

Your actions speak louder than words. Your insistence on limiting the president’s powers IN FAVOR OF the legislative branch is lopsided to say the least. Yes, the legislative branch makes laws but it is the EXECUTIVE branch which enforces them. If the president decides to declassify something he has the power to do so. The legislative branch cannot ORDER the executive branch to produce documents, they can only ASK. The FBI and DOJ answer to the president, not to the legislative branch.The dumb Dems have ORDERED the documents in question to NOT BE DECLASSIFIED. They have no RIGHT nor POWER to order anybody in the Executive branch. They have overstepped the division of powers established by the Constitution.

I don’t make dumb statements so be careful whom you attack!!!


245 posted on 09/19/2018 6:41:07 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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I happen to think you are just a bit too much on the side of the obstructionists who are attempting to delegitimize our duly elected president, Donald J. Trump.

Definitely a dumb statement.

And you continually go off on points that really aren't responsive to what I've said, debating something that wasn't said.

If the president decides to declassify something he has the power to do so.

Not really, only in some circumstances. The laws governing how classified material should be handled also apply to the president.

246 posted on 09/19/2018 7:55:56 PM PDT by Will88
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Not really, only in some circumstances.
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So that’s a yes and a no in the same sentence about the same subject. Definitely a dumb statement.

Give it up!


247 posted on 09/19/2018 8:03:44 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Will88

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There is absolutely nothing in any of the documents that is classified due to statutes.

The “classification” is completely to save face.

The president definitely can declassify any and all documents. Nothing in law prevents that action. This is all Title II activity.

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248 posted on 09/19/2018 9:19:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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