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To: CincyRichieRich

Its not pessimism, its observable reality.

The GOP Ecosphere doesn’t have a clue what it needs to do to win, or if it does, doesn’t have the foggiest idea how to do it.. even though Trump in 2016 showed them exactly how to do it.

Instead of learning those lessons, they continue to offer messaging that is the same they have for the last 20 years... and that isn’t going to work. Didn’t work in PA-18, Didn’t work in OH-12... Hell it HASN’T WORKED ANYWHERE!

When your opposing party is CONSISTENTLY getting Presidential year turnouts, and you are at best getting mid term level turnouts, you AREN’T going to hold your 23 seat Majority.... The only reason the GOP hasn’t lost more of these special elections is simply because most of them have been in districts so deep red, that even with presidential year turnouts by the dems, mid term level R turnout have been more than enough to hold.. But there are far more than 23 districts where THAT IS NOT TRUE... and the GOP is on path to lose a lot of them (purple), and probably some pink ones too.

Just like it was blindingly obvious that Trump was going to march right up the upper mid west to take the Presidency in 2016.. Its just as obvious the GOP e messaging to date isn’t going to win them anything but districts that are already deep red.

In PA Trump brought 1 MM more votes than any Republican in recent times... and he didn’t do it by simply saying Hillary was bad (though he did) He did it by talking to disenfranchised voters, across the spectrum and got them to believe HE WAS WITH THEM!!!... PERIOD.

IF you think, simply trying to label the Dem as a Pelosi sheep is going to win you elections in the upper midwest, with a motivated and engaged D base.. you are a flat out fool. Those 1 MM voters Trump found in PA, (and millions more across the upper midwest) a lot of them are multi generational Democrats... They aren’t going to be motivated by simply name calling and bad mouthing a democratic opponent... That sort of message NEVER got them to show up and vote R anytime before Trump.. but somehow, now... NOW that’s going to work? BS!!!

They didn’t suddenly become hard core, right wing, GOP Kool Aid drinkers... Their party abandoned them, but the didn’t jump to being a deep red Republican in 2016... They largely had disengaged, they weren’t just going to vote R because they weren’t a D.. they voted for TRUMP because he gave them a MESSAGE AND A REASON TO!! And that reason wasn’t Hillary’s evil... The reason was they had watched free trade and illegal aliens and opiods destroy their communites, and NO ONE, ON EITHER SIDE OF THE AISLE CARED!

Trump talked to them.. he told them I hear you, I am with you, and I am going to stop it...

I called 2016 for Trump early on, and predicted (accurately I might add) that trump would take the entire upper midwest, with the sole exceptions of IL and MN... and I was right... I also state PA-18 very possibly would go D, after watching the horrible messaging used for it... This was a race that even with a poor candidate should have never been closer than 3 points... a good candidate would have been 8+.. yet, the D eeked it out, and it was ALL because of the message was CRAP! OH 12 was the same message, and virtually the same result.. a district that R should have won by double digits, and they eek out a slim win and think they are winners?!!?!?

Folks need to wake up. With the messaging the GOP has been using to day, ANY DISTRICT, where the Democratic Presidential year turnout numbers are greater that Republican mid term turn out numbers historically is absolutely in play for the Democrats..... an that’s a LOT more than 23 districts... NO, the GOP won’t lose all of them, but if they keep this stupid stupid stupid messaging they have been using they will lose the house... They will lose 10+ seats in the upper midwest alone.

Now it looks like with that surprise win in TX they may be waking up to what I have been saying since March! That the messaging has to give the voters, and by voters I mean people outside the traditional R base, a REASON to care, show up and vote GOP... Short of that, the only shot the GOP has of holding the house is hoping that the D’s antics engage those non traditional MAGA voters.. because the GOP sure as hell is doing NOTHING to engage or motivate them themselves... and without them.. they LOSE a lot this fall


37 posted on 09/20/2018 11:05:49 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Perhaps instead of depressionville, hang out here a bit.

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43 posted on 09/20/2018 2:17:05 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (17...#1776)
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