Ben used to be on the morning answer in Southern Ca.
5 minutes was about all I could take of him.
5 minutes was about all anyone could take.
I can’t remember the girl who was on the show with him (Allison?) but the two of them were arrogant neverTrumpers and that had to be driving off the audience.
There’s nothing appealing about being lectured to by a couple of sanctimonious twits who were wearing diapers when Reagan was in office.