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To: SleeperCatcher

“To accomplish that objective, China must necessarily challenge the existing global order which is led by the United States.”

So much nonsense from this author.

China would have to build 1,000 strategic nukes and their respective delivery systems to effectively do as the author suggests.

They only have about 50-100 that can reach the US today. Against 1,500 we have ready to launch at them.

And nukes are the price of an Aircraft Carrier. Or US airfield. Or SSN etc.


2 posted on 09/24/2018 3:03:51 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I don’t understand or believe the supposed limit on the number of Chinese ICBMs.


4 posted on 09/24/2018 3:08:57 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: Mariner

Is the U.S. willing to have 20-30 of our largest metropolitan areas hit simultaneously by multiple nuclear weapons over the South China Sea?


6 posted on 09/24/2018 3:11:03 PM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: Mariner

China could easily have paid the Clintons and/or Obamas for permission to smuggle nukes here directly and hide them in our major cities. It’s not like that wouldn’t be for sale, at the right price.


7 posted on 09/24/2018 3:12:49 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: Mariner
Nonsense, no one is going to lob nukes at each other. Economics and influence in the Pacific rim is the key. Pressure all of the island nations to push China out (here's looking at your Saipan). Then pressure Latin America to start bidding to take over Chinese exports.

THAT is how you screw them.

12 posted on 09/24/2018 3:32:03 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Mariner

Quote: [So much nonsense from this author.

China would have to build 1,000 strategic nukes and their respective delivery systems to effectively do as the author suggests.

They only have about 50-100 that can reach the US today. Against 1,500 we have ready to launch at them.

And nukes are the price of an Aircraft Carrier. Or US airfield. Or SSN etc.]


The Chinese likely have thousands of nukes. They’ve certainly been spending large sums of money on their military that, when adjusted for salary differences (8:1), exceed US amounts.

Yes, they say they’ve only got hundreds. But why would they tell the truth? They’re certainly not averse to lying, in order to lull their perceived adversaries into complacency. Heck, they played dead while North Korean forces were running pell mell for the Chinese border after MacArthur’s landing at Inchon, and launched a surprise attack on US forces while the latter was attempting administer the coup de grace to the North Korean People’s Army.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
http://www.u3o8.biz/s/MarketCommentary.asp?ReportID=754347&_Title=10-Top-Uranium-producing-Countries

Quote: [In 2004, China stated that “among the nuclear-weapon states, China ... possesses the smallest nuclear arsenal,” implying China has fewer than the United Kingdom’s 200 nuclear weapons.[27] Several non-official sources estimate that China has around 400 nuclear warheads. However, U.S. intelligence estimates suggest a much smaller nuclear force than many non-governmental organizations.[28]

In 2011, high estimates of the Chinese nuclear arsenal again emerged. One three-year study by Georgetown University raised the possibility that China had 3,000 nuclear weapons, hidden in a sophisticated tunnel network.[29] The study was based on state media footage showing tunnel entrances, and estimated a 4,800 km (3,000 mile) network. The tunnel network was revealed after the 2008 Sichuan earthquake collapsed tunnels in the hills. China has confirmed the existence of the tunnel network.[30][31] In response, the US military was ordered by law to study the possibility of this tunnel network concealing a nuclear arsenal.[32] However, the tunnel theory has come under substantial attack due to several apparent flaws in its reasoning. From a production standpoint, China probably does not have enough fissile material to produce 3,000 nuclear weapons. Such an arsenal would require 9–12 tons of plutonium as well as 45–75 tons of enriched uranium and a substantial amount of tritium.[33][34] The Chinese are estimated to have only 2 tons of weapons-grade plutonium, which limits their arsenal to 450–600 weapons, despite a 16-ton disposable supply of uranium, theoretically enough for 1,000 warheads.[33] ]


14 posted on 09/24/2018 3:36:48 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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To: Mariner

I really don’t see why we should go to war over some islands with nothing worthwhile on them in the South China Sea, let alone a nuclear war. Sounds pretty stupid to me.


18 posted on 09/24/2018 3:51:31 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Mariner
And nukes are the price of an Aircraft Carrier. Or US airfield. Or SSN etc.

That's crazy. Explain why then North Korea, North Vietnam and Afghanistan were never nuked? LOL!

The next war will be conventional conventional conventional conventional. Did I mention the next war will be conventional?

24 posted on 09/24/2018 3:56:36 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Mariner

While I agree with your assessment, their persistent push to acquire facilities closer to CONUS is troubling. They already have a substantial but as yet unused base in the Bahamas, and they are snooping around the failed state of Venezuela for a continental base close to our southern border. We seem to be asleep to their encroachment.

Should push come to shove we could defeat them any time and any place even without going nuclear, but it would be very costly and very ugly.


34 posted on 09/24/2018 4:18:10 PM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: Mariner
20,000 shipping containers sitting on the east coast of the U.S.

If the chicoms only have 50 nukes and they are distributed up and down the east coast, they will be used if there is a war...

Of course there is little reason for the chicoms would want a war since, for the past 30-years, they have already acquired wealth, technology, and military secrets from the U.S. citizens without shedding a drop of either blood or sweat...It's called "winning"...

OTOH, a bigger threat situated (unencumbered) throughout the U.S. is the 25-30 "no-go" jihad-training compounds which are preparing to be used to train all 2-3 million ragheads in America to participate in widespread destruction and American deaths...

This will happen as soon as the approx 1500 new (since 9/11) mosques (storage and planning facilities) in America give the word...

BLOAT

38 posted on 09/24/2018 4:36:59 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Mariner

Global Warming will swallow those islands. Threat will have to move to other venue. /


44 posted on 09/24/2018 6:16:52 PM PDT by Does so (If Trump Colluded with Russians, Why Did Hillary Win The Popular Vote?)
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To: Mariner

But...they do seem to be doubling down on stupid with the tariff deals...they see their markets tumble and then do more of the same that caused it...they might still have the “We have a lot more disposable bodies” mindset....never can tell with dynastic malevolence.


51 posted on 09/25/2018 3:59:59 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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