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To: C210N

I just lost a colony this summer. They seemed fine in August. Then last week I noticed a yellow jacket coming out of the hive. So I opened it up and - not a bee in sight. All cells cleaned out.
Was that the wasps? There were not even any dead bees around.

Anyway, on the Roundup question... The plants with Roundup are DEAD. Bees don’t care about dead plants.


20 posted on 09/25/2018 8:19:53 AM PDT by Rio
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To: Rio
The plants with Roundup are DEAD. Bees don’t care about dead plants.

As I understand it, roundup gets into the roots of plants. What happens when it rains? Let's say that an orchard used roundup to kill weeds, and it got into the roots of the fruit trees. What if it didn't kill the trees but contaminated the fruit?

21 posted on 09/25/2018 8:27:38 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: Rio

That was wasps for sure. They live in the ground, and raise their young in there. The wasp foragers hunt for honeybees and cut them in half, bringing the juicy part back to their underground nest to feed their young. The young produces some substance that affects the foragers, egging them on to more hunting. Quite a vicious cycle, made worse in the fall with slim food sources.

The remedies include making sure your hive entrance has been restricted by mid-August. I go to my smallest restrictor opening by September. Another remedy is hanging up wasp traps nearby your hives - there are directions online for making them using a soda bottle. Very simple, and effective - you wind up with a bottle of dead wasps.

On the roundup - when spraying, probably good to avoid flowering stuff.

On nicotinoids, hard to avoid - all seeds it seems these days are coated with the stuff, so a tiny amount gets into all parts of the plant, roots/stems/leaves/flowers/nectar/pollen.


22 posted on 09/25/2018 8:27:49 AM PDT by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: Rio

What I’ve told is that many crops like corn now are genetically altered to tolerate glyphosate, so it can be sprayed over the whole field, leaving residue on the crops. The person who told me is convinced it’s the cause of many current health problems. Me, I try to keep an open mind.


27 posted on 09/25/2018 8:45:05 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Rio

“Anyway, on the Roundup question... The plants with Roundup are DEAD. Bees don’t care about dead plants.”

The intestinal flora in the bees are plants (bacteria and yeast). Roundup kills plants and intestinal flora. You can’t live without intestinal flora. Kill off the bees’ intestinal flora and the bees die.


62 posted on 09/25/2018 5:01:59 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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