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To: newfreep
If evolution was true, then why did apes & humans stop evolving?

Every time an offspring is conceived, evolution occurs. It has nothing to do with morphology, or any other consideration for that matter. It's the frequency with which genes occur in a given population, and with sexual reproduction that means constant, inevitable change.

12 posted on 10/04/2018 7:17:50 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

that’s adaptation...not evolution


16 posted on 10/04/2018 7:21:55 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Every time an offspring is conceived, evolution occurs.

Micro-evolution maybe. BUT NEVER MACRO-EVOLUTION.

ML/NJ

26 posted on 10/04/2018 7:30:04 AM PDT by ml/nj (.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Evolution does not refute the existence of God and neither does the Big Bang or the vast size of the universe. As far as I am concerned, the more vast, the more complex, and the older the universe is the greater God proves to be.


29 posted on 10/04/2018 7:37:31 AM PDT by WMarshal (America First)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
It's the frequency with which genes occur in a given population, and with sexual reproduction that means constant, inevitable change.

Yes, but in which direction ?

And even more to the point...


44 posted on 10/04/2018 8:09:40 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“It has nothing to do with morphology...”

Now that is a bit dishonest, since the theory posits that all changes in morphology are a result of evolution. It is also a theory generally based on gradualism as well, so over long time scales, we should see a relatively constant rate of change in morphology. After all, evolutionists use changes in morphology in the fossil record to estimate the times of divergence of species absent any other evidence, which shouldn’t be possible unless they are assuming that evolution necessitates some fairly steady rate of morphological change.

Of course that contradicts the idea that we see species from millions, or hundreds of millions of years ago in the fossil record that are to this day identical. So special pleading must be invoked in those cases to explain that they remain unchanged because they are “perfectly adapted” to their environment. Never mind that in all that time, no creature could remain so perfectly adapted, since the environment itself would be subject to change.


60 posted on 10/04/2018 8:31:57 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
...."Every time an offspring is conceived, evolution occurs."....

There is not ONE example of species to species mutation ever. Changing from brown eyes to blue is NOT evolution.

All you need to know is a man having sex with a chimp will NOT produce a chimera. Man to sheep, man to donkey, man to horse, on and on, doesn't work. God made it that way in Genesis 1-2. "He said multiply after their kind."

Demonic activity, OTOH, is able to edit DNA. That is found in Genesis 6:1. The Fallen angels mated with human women and produced freaks. These giants, or Nephilim were evil and corrupted the image of God. Genesis 1 says God said it was good after all of His Creation, but these Nephilim were not good.

Most people have heard of David and Goliath, but there were many more sons of Anack, Raphaim, Amorite, and many others. Og was the king of Bashan and was a Giant. To emphasize these were demonic, we have Scripture.

Psa_22:12 Many bulls have surrounded Me; Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled Me.

This is a picture of Jesus on the cross seeing demons encircling Him.

Eze 39:17 "And as for you, son of man, thus says the Lord God, 'Speak to every sort of bird and to every beast of the field: "Assemble yourselves and come; Gather together from all sides to My sacrificial meal Which I am sacrificing for you, A great sacrificial meal on the mountains of Israel, That you may eat flesh and drink blood.

Eze 39:18 You shall eat the flesh of the mighty, Drink the blood of the princes of the earth, Of rams and lambs, Of goats and bulls, All of them fatlings of Bashan.

Eze 39:19 You shall eat fat till you are full, And drink blood till you are drunk, At My sacrificial meal Which I am sacrificing for you.

This speaks of God killing these demonic giants. Birds of the air and beasts of the field also refers to demons in Scripture. Who are the princes of the earth? Fallen angels.

Nimrod was the first giant after the Flood according to LXX. He came from the cursed line of Ham and Canaan. The 12 spies sent to Canaan said they were grasshoppers in their eyes. One thing to notice was 2 men took one cluster of grapes back on a stick between the 2 men. Somehow, they had manipulated the DNA of grapes to make them huge. If they could do that, could they not make dinosaurs or other freakish animals? This is why Saul and Joshua were ordered by God to kill all with breath in certain areas. Women, children, dogs, cats, horses, donkeys, everything that breathed was to be killed. Amos 2:9 says they were as tall as cedars and strong as oaks. Og's bed dimensions are given along with Goliath's height.

There is a book of Enoch you can read on this subject also. It speaks of the women learning witchcraft and spells from the Fallen ones. Many don't give it weight, but Jude did in his book. Another book with angel details is Jasher.

Today, what do we find men doing? The big thing today is gene editing. Russians have manufactured a monkey-man Chimera, but had to kill it shortly after birth due to extreme violence. Science is working on bringing back extinct animals by combining them with others and planting them in a host. People are designing a new soldier that runs faster, needs less food and water, and can stop his own bleeding. We are literally corrupting God's Creation into what we want it to be. Some might call this "playing god".

Going back to where we started,..having sex out of species produces no offspring. A mutation would most likely die shortly after birth. There are certain markers in DNA that must be close enough to combine or their is no offspring. God designed it that way. That way, unless there was outside influence, each kind would multiply its own kind. Getting shorter, taller, different color eyes or hair, is NOT evolution. There has NEVER been species to species changes. Only an extinction of a certain species, being what you would expect with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics in effect.

72 posted on 10/04/2018 8:56:19 AM PDT by chuckles
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