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Is America a Republic or is it a Democracy What is it?
Metallicman ^ | 11OCT18 | Editorial staff

Posted on 10/11/2018 4:10:36 AM PDT by vannrox

I often hear Conservatives explicitly state that America is a Constitutional Republic. They argue this, because the United States Constitution set the organization and layout of the nation as a Republic. It states this explicitly as such. Meanwhile, I often hear Liberals, Democrats and Progressives repeatedly state that America is a Progressive Democracy. They say this, mostly because I guess, they don’t know any better. They parrot what they have heard.

Today, sadly, America does not function like either a Republic or a Democracy. It functions as something else. It functions and operates as an Oligarchy. It really does. Let’s look at this issue and try to determine what is going on in America; the most significant nation on this planet…

Americans are brought up to believe all sorts of myths about the country we call home. We’re told our economy is a free market meritocracy governed by the rule of law. We’re told our civil liberties, enshrined in the Bill of Rights, are inviolable and protected by the most powerful military in the world. A fighting force entrusted with the admirable and monumental task of defending freedoms at home, and democracy and human rights abroad. We’re told we exist in a system of self-government, in which our votes matter and our voices heard.

In practice, none of this is true.

There are many, many people who have addressed this issue. The arguments are rather simple and blunt.

If America is an actual Republic, then why is there a Federal Reserve, Senators that are popularly elected, and federal agencies that override the tenth Amendment. Republics that follow the Constitution will have none of this.

Alternatively, if America is a Democracy, then why are the populist issues resolved in the favor of the wealthy elite? Why are we endlessly involved

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1 posted on 10/11/2018 4:10:36 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox

Needs a disclaimer: L-O-N-G article, but a good one.


2 posted on 10/11/2018 4:14:04 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.)
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To: vannrox

Those that use the “Democrat” label caused a lot of un-Constitutional things that also violate the Republic philosophy...We may not be fully what we started out as but that’s because we allowed politicians to become professional power hunters.


3 posted on 10/11/2018 4:18:16 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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To: vannrox
The Founders hated democracy and went to great pains to ensure that our new government not take that form.

"Democracy will envy all, contend with all, endeavor to pull down all, and when by chance it happens to get the upper hand for a short time, it will be revengeful, bloody and cruel."

John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, 16 July, 1814

4 posted on 10/11/2018 4:19:43 AM PDT by awelliott (What one generation tolerates, the next embraces....)
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To: vannrox

The USA’s type of government: constitutional federal republic


5 posted on 10/11/2018 4:24:26 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: vannrox

I always thought that we had a constitutional republic. That’s what we were taught back in the 60s. But what do I know?


6 posted on 10/11/2018 4:26:17 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: jacknhoo

The USA’s type of government: constitutional federal republic

The individual states may be democracies, but the USA is not.


7 posted on 10/11/2018 4:27:49 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: vannrox

Excellent find.

17A is the worst.

America is a Progressive Dictatorship by Oligarchs, whose main goal is to demoralize you.


8 posted on 10/11/2018 4:32:03 AM PDT by TheNext (Anonymous Source)
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To: HighSierra5

We have a two-party system.


9 posted on 10/11/2018 4:33:30 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: jacknhoo

A socialist regulated constitutional federal republic


10 posted on 10/11/2018 4:35:35 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: vannrox

This is going to come up more and more.

The Democrats are committed (as per their name) to a universal franchise democracy. As they should be, since under such a system they would never lose.

The Constitution, on the other hand, had anti-democratic bones - the Senate, the Electoral College, the Supreme and inferior courts, and to some degree the Presidency.

Since the 1990s, the leftist majority has grown significantly. I’ve been looking at numbers recently. Just as a single example, states with two Democrat Senators (48) have 40 million more people than states with two Republican Senators (51).

In states won by Hillary, Trump got 22 million votes, but in states won by Trump, with much narrower margins, Hillary got 32 million votes.

So, the Left in the US has a majority somewhere between 20 million and 40 million people. They are being held in check by the Constitution, but they don’t like it.

Of course, our problem is bigger than that, since many Republicans also believe in “democracy”. I do not believe in “democracy”, I detest it, so I have no problem with keeping the anti-democratic Constitution in place.


11 posted on 10/11/2018 4:37:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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” A fighting force entrusted with the admirable and monumental task of defending freedoms at home, and democracy and human rights (i.e. homosexual rights) abroad.”

Where is that in the constitution?

I don’t want my sons fighting and risking death abroad to defend other countries “human rights.”. Screw that. Let the homos in those countries fight for themselves.


12 posted on 10/11/2018 4:38:11 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: vannrox

Republic. Next stupid question?


13 posted on 10/11/2018 4:38:31 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Gals)
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To: awelliott
A line from the movie The Patriot:

"Do I want to be ruled by one tyrant 3,000 miles away, or 3,000 tyrants one mile away?"

14 posted on 10/11/2018 4:40:27 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (GOP- 65 House and 12 Senate seat pickups in November)
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To: vannrox

The biggest error in this article is the assumption that the Left knows the difference between a Republic and a Democracy. A dollar to a doughnut that a survey of those rioting idiots on the streets would prove they don’t have a clue about the difference.


15 posted on 10/11/2018 4:42:31 AM PDT by econjack
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To: DownInFlames

Actually with the passage of the Seventeenth Amendment, we became a democracy. We are no longer a republic due to the fact that the 17th Amendment shifted the election of senators directly to the population much like the house, and it moved the powers away from state capitals as a check and balance on a large Federal bureaucracy. We essentially have very strong political parties and power Brokers that control all of what goes on in the government with the state capitals being effectively removed from the conversation. Lobbyists party Chiefs and big money run Washington DC as a result of the 17th Amendment. And it’s fueled by the 16th Amendment

Prior to the passage of the 17th Amendment who your governor was your local house rep in your local state center mattered every 6 years because they voted on your behalf and recommended an individual from your state serve in the senate in Washington DC. Our founding fathers knew that political parties would have way too much influence in Washington DC. Time to repeal those amendments to get our Republic back till then we have a democracy. And historically democracies Never End very well for the citizens. Take a look at the French Revolution


16 posted on 10/11/2018 4:46:48 AM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: econjack

It is probably time to bring civics classes back for grades 1-12.


17 posted on 10/11/2018 4:49:08 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Proud member of the DWN party. (Deplorable Wing Nut))
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To: carriage_hill

Yes. A must-read for the serious about the true condition of our nation.

All as the Commies planned it in the 1930’s.......that my beloved mother read as a typist for the FBI during WWII........and why she was a staunch Goldwater conservative.......

I see no path of recovery apart from collapse - that the Marxists will eventually cause to occur. Trump is but a momentary reprieve from the progressive assault, as the tactics used on Kavenaugh become the norm.....


18 posted on 10/11/2018 4:49:53 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: vannrox

The week Trump announced I posted right here “It doesn’t matter who wins, Trump or Hillary, in the age of The Imperial Presidency one side will not accept the outcome of the election. Whoever wins will be forced to respond with authority ‘in the interest of public safety’ and Consitutional Freedoms will have to be ignored.” What we are seeing was entirely predictable.


19 posted on 10/11/2018 4:51:14 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.B)
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To: vannrox

For the Left, a Democracy is mob rule. They know it, as that is the only way they can get their insane policies and ideas pushed and forced on the people.

Yes, their use of Judicial Legislation is their Go-To, but they wouldn’t be able to do any of that, if local elections weren’t decided on the majority.

Think about those election maps. If they’re right, the entire country is RED, except for the cities. If there were type of state level “electoral college system” set up, there would be very few Democrats at the federal level. If the state legislatures picked Senators, there’d be at least 66+ Republican’s in the Senate right now.

31 states are controlled, top to bottom, by Republicans ... 62 Senators.

11 states controlled by Dems( I think) 22 Senators.

8 states with a mix and they would each send one Republican and one Dem. 8 ea.

Gives the Senate a 70(R) to 30(D) split.

All it will take is a few states to get real serious. More than likely the South, Midwest and Mountain states. Let California secede. Take the coast’s of Oregon and Washington with them. Build the wall along those lines and let them eat each other. It won’t be long before they do. Just get rid of them and their insantiy.

No need to worry about China or Russia, the President is handling them just fine and it appears as though China is inching every closer to the cliff. Their imperialism is seeing its last days.


20 posted on 10/11/2018 4:52:02 AM PDT by qaz123
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