Posted on 10/11/2018 3:47:47 PM PDT by caww
He's absolutely right. Voters would do well to heed his warning......According to him, if Democrats succeed in implementing their single-payer proposal, "costs will spiral out of control. Taxes will skyrocket. And Democrats will seek to slash budgets for seniors' Medicare, Social Security and Defense." (to pay for it)
A government takeover of the health system would be a fiscal nightmare. .."Medicare for all" would cost the federal government an additional $32.6 trillion in spending over its first 10 years, according to a recent analysis by Charles Blahous at the Mercatus Center. Even if the government doubled the amount of federal income and corporate tax it takes in every year, it still wouldn't be able to foot the bill.
"Medicare for all" would result in massive tax hikes and a wave of hospital and clinic closings. And with the increased burden on taxpayers will come lengthy waits times, rationed care, and doctor shortages. As President Trump is arguing, voters simply can't afford to take the plunge.
Lately championed by Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., the ill-conceived socialist dream of "Medicare for all" is gaining steam. Sixteen Democratic senators have co-sponsored the legislation. And a whopping 123 House Democrats, representing more than 60 percent of the minority party, support a related bill. Moreover, many candidates running for office have embraced the idea.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
Have you seen what Medicare pays? If you don’t have a secondary, you’re screwed. And, read the fine print. If Medicare refuses a procedure or surgery, the secondary doesn’t want to pay either!
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My mom is in her early eighties and fortunately healthy as could be, not even a prescription drug. I’m pushing fifty and it’s an eye opener discussing Medicare. Nothing new to the older Freepers here, but these folks obviously have no idea what Medicare is all about...it’s certainly no grand bargain. I’m glad it’s there, but these people are clueless.
You’ll never see that.
It’s a massively inefficient program that inflates costs and destroys capital.
It’s not medicare that’s inflating the costs....it’s the hospitals and Dr’s double dipping.....especially hospitals and phramacuetals who are profiteers first and foremost.
its a basic catastrophic policy with big deductibles and to get really good insurance you will be paying about $400 a month.
my husband has Tricare for life so I hope its good...
the other dirty little secret is that a lot of supplements won’t pay either if medicare refuses....
but why are we handing benefits to illegals.....they have paid into NOTHING....
a country that pays bus drivers $200,000 and stage hands in NYC $450,000 has the problem right in front of them.......we expect professinals to work for far less and forget about the poor nursing aides that work just over minimal wage taking care of the HUGE elderly population....
the people making off with the big money are big pharma and big insurance and big corporations....
start there...
that’s what others think.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2017/06/california-single-payer-is-dead-for-the-time-being/
Cali’s yearly budget is approx 180 billion.
Simgle Payer approx yearly cost 400 billion - to start.
Why don’t we perform an experiment.
ALL government employees (elected or otherwise) MUST be covered by this plan. The Medicare Payroll deduction will be increased from 2.9% to 25.0%.
After 5 years, depending upon how well it works out, we can either extend it to everyone or roll it back to the way it is currently.
Not a problem, just give me back all the money I payed in with interest and we’re cool.
There is an ad on TV in Arizona that says ‘McSally voted against pre-existing conditions’. So I looked it up. Turns out she voted to allow Arizonans to buy short-term health insurance that doesn’t require the insurer to cover pre-existing conditions. I think the Dems can’t help but lie, that’s all they have.
They always lie.....and we should also keep one eye open when our reps speak as well...
Thanks
Those other things are issues but Medicare does inflate costs. It's illegal for hospitals participating in Medicare to charge a cash price for a procedure that's less than the scheduled medicare reimbursement amount.
Medicare for all is merely ObamaCare in a different package...
Of course we can, and will. It's the only way out at this point.
Nobody said a Medicare-based single payer will cover MRI, for example. If you want an MRI, there will be a private market and you can pay for it, or your private insurance you pay for can.
What EVERYBODY wants (and I've been sending doctor bills for 45 years) is to take your kid with a fever and a sore throat to the doctor, get a prescription, take it to the pharmacy (or even better, to the drug desk in the practice), and the only thing you hear from the doctor or office staff is, "Gee, I hope Johnny feels better soon".
Single payer cannot and will not pay for MRI, chemotherapy to produce 3 month partial responses in metastatic cancer, implantable auto-sensing defibrillators, DaVinci robotic prostate surgery, and all the things we have invented or bought with borrowed and printed money. If Congress could have figured out how to do that without $20 trillion in debt, they would have.
What single payer CAN and WILL do is release the taxpayers from responsibility for the financial success of the health "insurance" industry. Most people can and will live happily with their Trump Card in their pocket and zero bills when they are sick, or are worried that they are. Employers will be freed from the titanic costs of prepaid health care for their employees, provided under the rubric of "insurance", although it is no such thing.
And insurance businesses CAN and WILL sell individual true health insurance policies, rated and priced accurately (which they DO have expertise in), and offered in tiers (kicking in after $50,000, $100,000 out of pocket, or cutting off after $1,000,000, for example) - whatever you want to buy and can afford, you will be able to get.
What WON'T exist anymore is a taxpayer guarantee to pay, without limit, for any medical invention our incredibly creative scientists can devise that could, under very broad guidelines, possibly be of any use to any person, whatever their condition, life expectancy, or contribution to society.
That's not health insurance. That's Ponce de Leon searching for the fountain of youth. If $20 trillion in debt hasn't done the job, it’s not happening.
Oh, it goes without saying that closing the Southern border, with a wall and machine guns if necessary, expulsion of anyone (and their children) without citizenship or permanent residency with the right to work, and capital punishment for selling opioids or amphetamines will all be part of the grand bargain.
Of course we can, and will. It's the only way out at this point.
Nobody said a Medicare-based single payer will cover MRI, for example. If you want an MRI, there will be a private market and you can pay for it, or your private insurance you pay for can.
What EVERYBODY wants (and I've been sending doctor bills for 45 years) is to take your kid with a fever and a sore throat to the doctor, get a prescription, take it to the pharmacy (or even better, to the drug desk in the practice), and the only thing you hear from the doctor or office staff is, "Gee, I hope Johnny feels better soon".
Single payer cannot and will not pay for MRI, chemotherapy to produce 3 month partial responses in metastatic cancer, implantable auto-sensing defibrillators, DaVinci robotic prostate surgery, and all the things we have invented or bought with borrowed and printed money. If Congress could have figured out how to do that without $20 trillion in debt, they would have.
What single payer CAN and WILL do is release the taxpayers from responsibility for the financial success of the health "insurance" industry. Most people can and will live happily with their Trump Card in their pocket and zero bills when they are sick, or are worried that they are. Employers will be freed from the titanic costs of prepaid health care for their employees, provided under the rubric of "insurance", although it is no such thing.
And insurance businesses CAN and WILL sell individual true health insurance policies, rated and priced accurately (which they DO have expertise in), and offered in tiers (kicking in after $50,000, $100,000 out of pocket, or cutting off after $1,000,000, for example) - whatever you want to buy and can afford, you will be able to get.
What WON'T exist anymore is a taxpayer guarantee to pay, without limit, for any medical invention our incredibly creative scientists can devise that could, under very broad guidelines, possibly be of any use to any person, whatever their condition, life expectancy, or contribution to society.
That's not health insurance. That's Ponce de Leon searching for the fountain of youth. If $20 trillion in debt hasn't done the job, it’s not happening.
Oh, it goes without saying that closing the Southern border, with a wall and machine guns if necessary, expulsion of anyone (and their children) without citizenship or permanent residency with the right to work, and capital punishment for selling opioids or amphetamines will all be part of the grand bargain.
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