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Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
The Hill ^ | 10/12/18 | CHRIS MILLS RODRIGO

Posted on 10/12/2018 7:13:42 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

President Trump praised Confederate Geader Robert E. Lee as "a great general" on Friday during a campaign rally in Lebanon, Ohio.

"So Robert E. Lee was a great general. And Abraham Lincoln developed a phobia. He couldn’t beat Robert E. Lee," Trump said before launching into a monologue about Lee, Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant.

"He was going crazy. I don’t know if you know this story. But Robert E. Lee was winning battle after battle after battle. And Abraham Lincoln came home, he said, 'I can’t beat Robert E. Lee,'" Trump said.

"And he had all of his generals, they looked great, they were the top of their class at West Point. They were the greatest people. There’s only one problem — they didn’t know how the hell to win. They didn’t know how to fight. They didn’t know how," he continued.

Trump went on to say, multiple times, that Grant had a drinking problem, saying that the former president "knocked the hell out of everyone" as a Union general.

"Man was he a good general. And he’s finally being recognized as a great general," Trump added.

— NBC News (@NBCNews) October 13, 2018 Trump has drawn criticism for his defense of Confederate statues, including those of Robert E. Lee.

He drew widespread condemnation last year following a deadly rally in Charlottesville, Va., saying that white nationalist protesters were there to oppose the removal of a "very, very important" statue.

"They were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee,” Trump said at the time. “This week it's Robert E. Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson is coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week and is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop?”

Trump, speaking at another rally in Ohio last year, said that he can be one of the “most presidential” presidents to hold office. "…With the exception of the late, great Abraham Lincoln, I can be more presidential than any president that’s ever held this office,” he said to a crowd in Youngstown.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bloggers; civilwar; confederacy; dixie; donaldtrump; robertelee; trump
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To: jmacusa
Both sides did that. You keep trying to make it about slavery, and you keep ignoring the fact that slavery was legal in the Union, and it remained legal in the North longer than it did in the South.

You want to make it about slavery, because you have no other argument to justify the Northern armies invading the South.

221 posted on 10/13/2018 11:24:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Bull Snipe

So he really didn’t have that much of a problem with outrunning his logistics, did he?


222 posted on 10/13/2018 11:25:37 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fiji Hill
The Washington Post creating a fake scandal out of a third rate burglary is why the Vietnam war was abandoned, and it is why all those people died and why so many suffered under communism in Vietnam.

The Washington Post is still working to cause disaster in this nation, and I think we would do better to turn our artillery on that, and blow it to hell and gone.

223 posted on 10/13/2018 11:27:36 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: jmacusa

You do realize there were slave states in the north don’t you!! You do realize Lincoln did nothing to free those slaves. You do realize Grant owned a slave and did not free him till after the war!!! You do realize Lincolns first choice was Lee!! So his first choice was a slaveholder and his final choice was a slaveholder!!!


224 posted on 10/13/2018 11:28:27 AM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

Oh please, not that crap again. Moral relativism never works.


225 posted on 10/13/2018 11:37:39 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: DiogenesLamp
That's a pretty stupid question. But then that's you. So the North ‘’invaded’’ the south. So why was Lee in Maryland and the Pennsylvanian?
226 posted on 10/13/2018 11:40:41 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa
Since when are facts considered moral relativism. Sorry pal but northern slave owners are the same as southern slave owners. And freeing slaves you have no jurisdiction over while you pass on the ones you could actually free smacks of political chicanery!!!
227 posted on 10/13/2018 11:43:10 AM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

Slavery in the North was a shadow of what existed in the South, pal.


228 posted on 10/13/2018 11:44:47 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa

Oh! I see...slavery is OK if done in acceptable numbers. I’m sure the slaves were understandable of that!!!


229 posted on 10/13/2018 11:48:48 AM PDT by ontap
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To: DiogenesLamp

Once Grant crossed the Mississippi River on the 29 April, he was not resupplied until he started the siege of Vicksburg on May 18. In that 20 day period his army fought 7 battles, captured Jackson MS. and finally laid siege to Vicksburg. Grant’s army strength was about 77,000 men. When Lee went into Pennsylvania, he had a wagon train 25 miles long to support his army of 75,000 men.


230 posted on 10/13/2018 11:49:07 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (")
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To: HamiltonJay

1st in his class at West Point. Commandant at West Point. Asked by Lincoln to command US troops after Civil War started. Fought a defensive war against US troops for 5 years. Yes I think that qualifies him as a great general.


231 posted on 10/13/2018 11:57:03 AM PDT by mware (RETIRED)
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To: Pelham
Pelham: "I don’t think even you can swallow that one. "

I'd say anyone who doesn't like being called a "North hater" shouldn't go around casually calling others "South haters".

You disagree?

232 posted on 10/13/2018 12:01:46 PM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: mware

Charles Mason was first in 1829 graduating class at West Point. Lee was second. Mason resigned his commission in 1831 and never served in the army again.


233 posted on 10/13/2018 12:07:38 PM PDT by Bull Snipe (")
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To: jmacusa
That's a pretty stupid question. But then that's you. So the North ‘’invaded’’ the south. So why was Lee in Maryland and the Pennsylvanian?

Two years after the Northern Armies invaded the South? Why do you suppose they would want to give anyone a taste of their own medicine?

234 posted on 10/13/2018 12:10:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Telepathic Intruder; wardaddy; Pelham; DiogenesLamp; Dick Bachert; GSWarrior; John S Mosby
The Left are not "Liberals," and Robert E. Lee was both an extraordinary military genius, as well as the American who most closely epitomized the very concept of a true gentleman.

His family were also particularly notable as both his father & uncle were among General Wasington's closest lieutenants.

Patriots, North & South, have always revered General Lee, who also epitomized the very decency that the anti-Trump, anti-Kavanaugh fanatics of today have decided to totally abandon. We must all solemnly endeavor to defeat their loathsome tactics, with God's help, in the coming contest.

Damn the liars; damn the hate driven. Full speed ahead in our determination to restore the historic culture of America!

Our Last Chance? [Can Donald Trump Revive The "Spirit of '76?]

235 posted on 10/13/2018 12:11:59 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: jmacusa
Slavery in the North was a shadow of what existed in the South, pal.

Have you ever heard that joke in which the punchline is:

We've already determined what kind of girl you are, now we are just haggling over the price.

You can't don the moral armor of fighting against the South because of "slavery" when you continue to practice it yourself. It clearly wasn't "slavery" that was causing the invasion and fighting.

236 posted on 10/13/2018 12:12:55 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: yesthatjallen

If great means being the most profligate with your men’s lives then yes Lee is amongst the greatest.


237 posted on 10/13/2018 12:15:22 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Then the claim that he was in Texas on April 11th is incorrect.

According to Freeman he was not. And Freeman has been the gold standard for Lee biographers for decades.

238 posted on 10/13/2018 12:15:44 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Bull Snipe
My point is that he had those ships to resupply him if he needed it. He obviously planned to do his work without needing resupply for that 20 day period.

Lee didn't have ships to carry supplies to him. He had to do it with wagon trains and foraging.

239 posted on 10/13/2018 12:16:19 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fiji Hill

Yeah, whatever. Your mind is closed. No one ever beats the US.

Just ask the Taliban.


240 posted on 10/13/2018 12:16:20 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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