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The creative accounting that allowed Jared Kushner to dodge paying income taxes is totally legal
Business Insider ^ | Oct. 14, 2018 | Ellen Cranley

Posted on 10/14/2018 3:15:33 PM PDT by Innovative

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To: Innovative

Dems chasing another vapor trail.....


41 posted on 10/14/2018 3:58:21 PM PDT by FrankR (You gotta stand for something, or you'll fall for anything!)
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To: Innovative
I'm sure some enterprising Art History major in the media army is tracking down this "depreciation thingy" to identify when it became part of the IRC and what political party put it in place.

And, no, "enterprising reporter, "NOL" is not a mis-typing of "LOL"

42 posted on 10/14/2018 4:00:48 PM PDT by Bernard (We will stop calling you fake news when you stop being fake news.)
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To: Innovative

How did they get copies of his tax returns?


43 posted on 10/14/2018 4:01:12 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Innovative

The “loop holes” in the tax code regarding income earning real estate, from single-individual-owner residence that is rented out, to commercially owned residential, comercial business property and every other real estate, is a “bipartisan” affair - as far as who has lobbied for the favorable real estate tax provisions.

In addition to all the commercial and investor interests who would lobby against changing the rules regarding real estate there would be millions of individuals joining them who just own one or a few rental-income houses as part of their personal investment.

I might even disagree with with a few of the real estate tax provisions, on philosophical grounds, even in spite of having used them in the past. My point here is just to say the popularity of those provisions extends across the population and far beyond the ultra rich investors. Both major parties have supported them and their popularity has increased as the economy grew and more and more upper middle income folks began to invest in real estate and take advantage of the favorable tax rules it has.

The tax provisions Kushner used are used by millions of people spanning many income levels.

If the NYSlimes really wanted to go after the favorable tax provisions given to real estate, they could have done so with examples all across the political and income spectrum. But they really just wanted to do a biased political report, and no a true unbiasd “expose” of the tax code.

For myself, I am a “flat tax” advocate and would prefer a low flat income tax with no deductions, exemptions, exclusions or credits - just a flat tax collected any time any kind of payment to someone was made, for investment income earned, or labor, or product or services rendered. The tax code for that would be just a few pages.


44 posted on 10/14/2018 4:07:25 PM PDT by Wuli (u)
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Another thing. When a taxpayer takes depreciation, they must calculate a gain on by reducing their cost basis by the amount of depreciation they took or should have taken. So even if the taxpayer did not take depreciation as allowed, they will be treated as if they did take depreciation and pay taxes on the amount taken.


45 posted on 10/14/2018 4:09:01 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Bernard
to identify when it became part of the IRC and what political party put it in place.

See #37

46 posted on 10/14/2018 4:10:20 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Innovative

It’s only illegal if conservatives do it. That’s the stubborn thing about laws.


47 posted on 10/14/2018 4:11:48 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: Wuli
The “loop holes” in the tax code regarding income earning real estate, from single-individual-owner residence that is rented out, to commercially owned residential, comercial business property and every other real estate, is a “bipartisan” affair - as far as who has lobbied for the favorable real estate tax provisions.

Depreciation helps the average taxpayer match his cash flow from a rental property to his taxable income. Most real estate investments are financed. The law doesn't allow a deduction for the principal portion of a mortgage payment only the interest. Depreciation is a paper deduction that helps lower the investors income so that on average the income reported for income taxes will be the same amount of income generated by the rental property over the life of the property.

48 posted on 10/14/2018 4:15:11 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Innovative

This is common in real estate dealings. You can lose money for years on a large project before it finally pays off, IF it pays off. The IRS got rid of some of that with its phantom income provision, which is a real pain in the neck.


49 posted on 10/14/2018 4:16:52 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Stop The Madness. Do Not Respond To Vanity Posts.)
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To: Innovative

ANYONE with an income can do this. A teen with a lawn mowing business can ‘depreciate’ the wear and tear on his mower and his pick up truck.

I’m certain Socialists are mad that people claim as many deductions on their W4 Forms as legally possible. I always did!

WTF give Mother Government YOUR hard earned cash to p*ss away on things you find morally reprehensible?

Is it worth funding The Beast to get a tax refund because you can’t manage your own finances? Never could understand that illogic! ;)


50 posted on 10/14/2018 4:24:33 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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“Depreciation helps the average taxpayer match his cash flow from a rental property to his taxable income. Most real estate investments are financed. The law doesn’t allow a deduction for the principal portion of a mortgage payment only the interest. Depreciation is a paper deduction that helps lower the investors income so that on average the income reported for income taxes will be the same amount of income generated by the rental property over the life of the property.”

Yes, I know what it does. I used it when I owned rental income property.

But, unlike depreciation for things that actually do depreciate, like machinery for instance, the “tax savings” from that depreciation is a consequence and it is allowed because actual depreciation does occur. But “depreciation” of real estate is not someting that naturally occurs, minus poor maintenance or a major down tutn in a real estate market. Applying depreciation for real estate, for tax purposes, is not derived, unlike machinery, because any actual real depreciation of value can be assumed - it is PURELY a provision for tax avoidance, which is not a mere consequence, but apparently its only purpose.

I do not know the history of when real estate depreciation obtained its role in the tax code, but unlike most other allowed depreciation it is not rooted in an actual expected value depreciation.

But like I said, I am for a flat tax to begin with and with zero deductions, exemptions, exclusions or credits - just everyone paying a simple low flat tax.


51 posted on 10/14/2018 4:31:33 PM PDT by Wuli (u)
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I do not know the history of when real estate depreciation obtained its role in the tax code

See my 37 above. It has been with us since the inception of the income tax.

52 posted on 10/14/2018 4:33:13 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Innovative
rules are rules, ya don't like it, pass a flat tax.
53 posted on 10/14/2018 4:33:37 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: ridesthemiles

Put every member of congress under the same microscope. We will have to elect a new government.


54 posted on 10/14/2018 4:38:33 PM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: Innovative

No one should pay more taxes than they are legally required to. Governments at all levels have proven that they are extremely poor stewards of the people’s funds.


55 posted on 10/14/2018 4:40:52 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: Innovative

Creative? Hell, I’m an engineer and I can fugure the depreciation expense

I’ts not creative. It’s not rocket surgery


56 posted on 10/14/2018 4:44:53 PM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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To: Innovative

Business Insider is the enemy of business.

They like to try to deceive you by having a pro-business name, but they are pure left and red as a summer sunset.


57 posted on 10/14/2018 5:00:52 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Maris Crane

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Correctamundo!
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58 posted on 10/14/2018 5:01:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: bert

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“I’ts not creative. It’s not rocket surgery” <

Its built into the processor of the HP 16c.
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59 posted on 10/14/2018 5:03:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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President Trump is way too smart to do anything tax-wise that might get his tit caught in the IRS wringer. The NYSlimes is a wishin’ and a hopin’. Not gonna happen.


60 posted on 10/14/2018 5:20:51 PM PDT by upchuck (Definition of a Republican registered to vote but doesn't on Nov 6: A DEMOCRAT!)
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