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What is the threshold? The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians say 1/16 or 0.625 to be recognized as Cherokee. And then they won't count that if you are also African-American. Oops. Not very inclusive are they?

And what about our minority classifications? Are you Hispanic or Latino? Black? Etc. Most classifications, such as for company ownership for preference and set-asides, claiming benefits and freebies, etc., are simply Yes and No. There are no established percentages. In California there is controversy over House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s in-laws claiming Native American identity because of a commercial DNA test. Ah, third-party test, not one by a friend. Anyway, please dispute the legitimacy of the claim. Yet, the law says you are or are not.

So, based on current laws and customs, local, state, and federal programs are simply Yes or No. Makes a bit of a mockery of these set-asides as are all mongrels to some extent--the American Melting Pot. My family traces to 1700s German, Irish, and Scottish settlers, later to Polish and Lithuanian. Bet if I got a DNA test, we'd find a lot more. My wife's family is from Spain and Spain via Venezuela. My boys qualify as Hispanic or Latino. Better benefits if we'd claim they were illegal but that's a different topic.

Okay, I've worked with White Cubans who qualified because they were from Cuba. Not much different than our son's claiming Hispanic or Latino because of my wife's Spanish roots.

My conclusion is that it is all a scam, long overdue to be ended. If we are color blind, then who cares? Race origin is haphazard measure, made meaningless with DNA tests, which are often flawed anyway by reading only a half dozen markers out of thousands (and repeated claims that they are inaccurate, false data is thrown in to screw with people, etc.). Should we end it or say that someone needs, like the Cherokee, a certain percentage? I say end it.

More important, in my opinion, is are you a citizen or not, are you economically disadvantaged (giving small business a helping hand when competing again big business.

Until there is some clarity, I suspect more and more people can claim whatever they want with whatever flimsy but equally acceptable evidence they want to you.

What do you think? Do away with it? Set thresholds? Set test requirements or sources for claim?

1 posted on 10/15/2018 9:47:00 AM PDT by Reno89519
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Sure, she “may be” 0.00097561 Cherokee based on DNA from Colombia, Peru and Mexico, lol. And zero DNA from actual Cherokee people.


2 posted on 10/15/2018 9:50:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Actual Europeans, living in Europe, descended from Europeans who never went to America have a certain percentage of “Native American” DNA. What this actually represents is DNA from Siberian sources. These peoples who were the source of these Siberian DNA segments contained in the DNA of modern Europeans were also the source of the same DNA segments present in Amerindians.

Elizabeth Warren is full of shit....and it’s not Cherokee shit.


3 posted on 10/15/2018 9:53:33 AM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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As I understand it, she has a much better chance of being related to chicken s—t.


5 posted on 10/15/2018 9:53:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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I'm 3% Neanderthal .. where's my check ? !
7 posted on 10/15/2018 9:54:31 AM PDT by tomkat
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I had an Indonesian accidentally breathe on me one time- does that make me Indonesian? Can i claim special rights now as a ‘native Indonesian/American citizen’


8 posted on 10/15/2018 9:54:56 AM PDT by Bob434
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I am 60% Drosophila melanogaster


9 posted on 10/15/2018 9:55:29 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Man claims to be a minority business owner after DNA test shows he’s 4% African
10 posted on 10/15/2018 9:56:26 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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She’s manipulative and a liar

If anything, this PROVES she’s a FRAUD

I don’t consider myself “European Jewish” since it came back INITIALLY @ 1%. In fact, my wife and I had a good laff over that

But recently, the Ethnic Profile was UPDATED due to new technology and data. Guess What? The 1% DISAPPEARED. So did the 3% “North African” (Mediterranean)

That FAUX had to go out and “hire” a “friend” and he did an “analysis” is just a piece to this entire fraud. Declaring yourself “Native American” is as bad as Christine Fraud accusing a good man like JUSTICE Kananaugh a “groper” “abuser” whatever.

And of course, the lapdogs in the media run with it.

What a disaster the Dims and media lapdogs are.


11 posted on 10/15/2018 9:57:32 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Mods/Indies/Dems/Non-voters" Are the CRAZY DIMS REALLY who you'd want BACK in POWER?)
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My kids are 50% Samoan and they don’t have the audacity to call themselves Samoan.


13 posted on 10/15/2018 9:59:01 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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She must be 1/32 injun to claim she is a legal injun.


17 posted on 10/15/2018 10:00:25 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic is one stop shopping...It's the super Walmart for news.)
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If that DNA test proves she is Cherokee, then most of the black community in America qualify as Caucasian. 🤔
18 posted on 10/15/2018 10:00:26 AM PDT by jmclemore (Go Trump)
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I would think none.

Suppose a white lady and her infant get kidnapped by Comanche.

Said child is raised Comanche. He’s a Comanche. And can even become chief. (This is not a theoretical discussion, BTW.)

I know many an adopted Asian kid who became Haredi Jewish people in Israel.

The concept of race is pretty vague a fluid.

She’s a pasty white lady who faked a story for affirms action reasons.

Now she’s busted on her own liberalism.


19 posted on 10/15/2018 10:00:46 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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Nobody’s reporting the findings that she’s 50% donkey/horse. I guess that too obvious and not worth reporting. /sarc


20 posted on 10/15/2018 10:01:00 AM PDT by LostPassword
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The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians say 1/16 or 0.625 0.0625 to be recognized as Cherokee.

Off by a factor of 10 (one order of magnitude) - and still more-accurate than Warren's claims!

Regards,

21 posted on 10/15/2018 10:01:08 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Don’t know if tribes have own rules or BIA the number i remember is 1/16 I think the Pechangas used that for benefits from the casino


23 posted on 10/15/2018 10:01:31 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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Around here...in Oklahoma...

You have to prove a blood relative was on the old tribal "rolls".........

IOW...documented "Native"....on the old documentation records.

Never heard..a percent rule...but there are different Natives...that look down their noses...at people..that don't "look" Native...but are.

Here in OK....the Cherokee..had a chief named "MANKILLER"...frankly I love it...the chief was a woman...And I'm a man...but still like the name.

Took care of a man in the hosp. named Whitekiller....I loved it!! ..............

My postman...years ago...was Mr. Standingbear....

Why can't I have a cool name....like that!?!?...

LOL!!

24 posted on 10/15/2018 10:02:19 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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28 posted on 10/15/2018 10:06:05 AM PDT by nutmeg
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Everyone in America could claim that. That is noise not data. 23 and Me and Ancestry.com do net even report such ridiculously low numbers.

Also, any "experiment" should be done blind. Her "friend" would have an implicit bias. At the minimum the test should be conducted blind by a laboratory that does not know where the sample came from.

An organization like 23 and Me, Ancestry.com or Oxford Ancestors will have the skill set and the databases to accurately determine ancestry. They do not even bother reporting numbers so low. It is part of the noise.
 

29 posted on 10/15/2018 10:06:26 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies!)
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It should be 1/1,024

So instead of trying to figure out what percentage makes you part of a group, can everyone agree that 1/1,024 clearly doesn't meet the threshold, and is on it's face laughable?

30 posted on 10/15/2018 10:07:04 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Thanks to the discovery of the “mitochondrial Eve”, we are all related.

Feel free to check any racial box you like.


31 posted on 10/15/2018 10:07:10 AM PDT by fruser1
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