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To: HamiltonJay

And yet it still elects a democrat senator!!! Although half an apple is better than none!!!


54 posted on 10/16/2018 1:46:26 PM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

All,

I have explained this before Manchin thinks he can be President by remaining a Rat. I have talked to several people who know Manchin personally and have advised him to switch parties or even to do a Joe Lieberman and go independent. They completely agree with the following analysis.

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After the Rat party implodes due to leftist extremism. Manchin thinks he can ride in to the rescue. Be the moderate voice in between the two extremes - Schumer/Pelosi - left & Trumpian - right. (Trump as a right wing extremist?? WTF?) He basically can do a 1992 Bill Clinton and “triangulate” his way to the nomination. Then to win the Presidency - he does a “Bill Clinton act” but without the zipper problem & harridan harpy wife and seize the “middle ground”. Well it’s not 1992, politics have dramatically changed. There is little to no “middle ground” now and Manchin does not have the political skills nor “elitist credentials” of a Slick Willie. He also doesn’t have a “Dick Morris” in his camp. He is fooling himself, keeping his seat is the best he can do. I hope he doesn’t but I think he will - barely!

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58 posted on 10/16/2018 2:09:05 PM PDT by Reily
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To: ontap

A democratic Senator who is a Former 2 time governor who won the state with nearly 70% of the vote, and who had a favorability rating while governor in the high 60s throughout most of his Terms.

He’s served in Office in some capacity in WV since 1982, and ONLY lost 1 election in his entire career.

This “Oh he’s a democrat, how can WV be so stupid” shows frankly how ignorant you are, not West Virginians. Manchin has served his state and its people well, and been rewarded repeatedly for it. Do I like all his stands? Nope.. but to try to claim West Virginians are Stupid for supporting someone who has consistently shown he has earned their support is just ignorant ranting from someone who lives outside their great state and thinks they know better than them how to vote.

I don’t like Manchin, but I can tell you he is EASILY 100 times the politician the GOP have put up against him. And if this race was against a backdrop of anything other than the national tide of the Dems insanity of the last 20 years of so, Manchin would cake walk to a 20 point win. Morrissey is a sclub, just because he’s got an R beside his name doesn’t mean he’s a great candidate or a great politician.

Manchin’s by far the strongest D in the red states this fall. It’s up to the people of WV to decide if they want to continue to support him or not. His overall track record has been a damned good one, even if you or I or others don’t particularly agree with every vote he’s cast or thing he’s done. If he was just an empty suited shrill left wing nutter WV would have tossed him aside long ago.

He’s capable, he’s smart, and he knows his state and has served his constituents, which is is exactly WHY he’s got a 26 year pedigree and been rewarded for it. If it wasn’t for the fact he has a D beside his name, WV wouldn’t even be in play at all, but that has NOTHING to do with Manchin personally, but everything to do with where the D party has gone. Manchin is nearly a man without a country territory, but not because of his failure to do his job and do it well, but because the party he is part of has marched itself so far left, that its left the people of WV behind. WV hasn’t move right, as much as the Dems have moved left. Manchin would fit in far better in most GOP settings than in Democrat ones more often than not.

I think personally the tide is running against him, but as I have said, if there is a red state D who could survive, Manchin is the most likely.

Whichever way it goes, however, as much as I want to see another GOP seat in the Senate, and I believe the GOP better stands for the values of WV a the national level than the Democrat party does... If Manchin manages to win, it will be because he has earned it, and I respect the people of WV enough to not call them idiots for voting how they do.


61 posted on 10/16/2018 2:21:30 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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