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The US-Saudi relationship must be preserved – our national interest demands it
Fox News ^ | Oct. 16, 2018 | Jim Hanson

Posted on 10/16/2018 9:22:22 PM PDT by Innovative

The concerted efforts now underway to derail the improved relations between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia established by the Trump administration are unhelpful at best and dangerous to America’s national and economic security at worst.

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is a reformer trying to modernize his country. The steps he has taken so far are unprecedented. Letting that progress fall victim to mistakes by his government and attacks from opponents would be a massive mistake.

The death of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi – a critic of the Saudi government, who has not been heard from since he entered the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul two weeks ago – was a tragedy. If the facts show the government of Saudi Arabia was responsible for his death it should be held accountable.

But the death of Khashoggi does not outweigh U.S. strategic concerns, which require that we maintain good relations with the Saudi government. We must react accordingly – not as a favor to the Saudis, but in our own national interest.

In the Middle East we must keep our eyes on the biggest threat in the region – the dangerous and virulently anti-American government of Iran, which poses a military danger to its neighbors and our ally Israel.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: erdogan; goodriddance; jamalkhashoggi; khashoggi; kurdistan; muslimbrotherhood; receptayyiperdogan; saudi; saudiarabia; turkey
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To: Innovative

I thought that embassies were governed by the laws of the the country they represent - little enclaves within other countries.

If it was legal to execute Khashoggi in Saudi Arabia, he could be considered within Saudi jurisdiction. He may have been a US resident, but he was a Saudi citizen/subject.


41 posted on 10/16/2018 10:32:07 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Innovative

42 posted on 10/16/2018 10:34:36 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: House Atreides

Graham, rubio, the usual suspects....where were they when seth rich was gunned down?


43 posted on 10/16/2018 10:35:45 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: Innovative

Fuck you jim
And your deep state handlers
This is just another bullshit attack on trump


44 posted on 10/16/2018 10:46:53 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: changedLiberal

Related:

JAMAL KHASHOGGI: THE MEDIA FIGHTS FOR A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD PAL OF OSAMA BIN LADEN

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3697300/posts?page=1

posted by changedLiberal

The truth is finally starting to come out.


45 posted on 10/16/2018 10:48:55 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: firebrand

These guys make the Russian mafia look tame. Cutting somebody up alive with a bone saw? Seriously? They never heard of a doubletap?


46 posted on 10/16/2018 11:05:34 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight yourr way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

That is the story, tortured alive and cut up alive but do we know that for sure ?


47 posted on 10/16/2018 11:08:57 PM PDT by advertising guy (The manliest man Obama knows is married to him.)
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To: Truthoverpower

No, this is not an attack on Trump, just the opposite.

The author is exactly tries to explain to people why Trump has to be careful, as he has been.

The MSM in other articles were trying to goad Trump into starting a war with these people, then they were going to criticize him for that.


48 posted on 10/16/2018 11:13:33 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Georgia Girl 2

We don’t know that they cut him up alive. More likely they killed him, then they cut up the body to take it out more easily.


49 posted on 10/16/2018 11:15:10 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

If I would be Trump, and I am glad I am not, as I would not last a couple of days, I would tell that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman “Listen my dear friend, you should have shown a little more sense and picked a different place and time to do away with Khashohggi instead of getting us both in to hot water” From what I gathered, working with the Saudi tribe is just like working with the mob, you are either in or out, and when you are out you are going to be terminated and Khashoggi was by no means a saint. The only difference between the Saudis and the US is that they are more to the point. Here in the states they are a little bit more refined and prefer to take the “Mueller or Diana Feinstein route” in order to get rid of some one.


50 posted on 10/17/2018 12:13:23 AM PDT by saintgermaine (saintgermaine the time traveller)
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To: Innovative

It’s a bit far fetched for anyone to expect cutting ties over this.


51 posted on 10/17/2018 12:14:07 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Reno89519

Are they not changing leadership these days?


52 posted on 10/17/2018 12:15:08 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: jyo19
Was he a terrorist? The article I read in which he was holding the rpg was pre 9/11 when Russia was in Afghanistan. Just trying to get the facts straight.
53 posted on 10/17/2018 12:18:10 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Innovative

President Trump and Secretary of State Pompeo know best on this matter. All else is political noise for foreign interests and is running on mere allegations with insufficient evidence, incredible sources, etc.


54 posted on 10/17/2018 12:22:23 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: DesertRhino

...we are not “allies” with the Saudis because of our national interest. We are there solely because of the petrodollar...

BINGO!


55 posted on 10/17/2018 12:32:54 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: DesertRhino

You have posted the only post that wasn’t sickeningly stupid or naive on this thread

If the wtc had been in TX no one here would have stfu about how evil the Saudis are and how they must be destroyed until at least 2040


56 posted on 10/17/2018 12:51:36 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: DesertRhino

You have posted the only post that wasn’t sickeningly stupid or naive on this thread

If the wtc had been in TX no one here would have stfu about how evil the Saudis are and how they must be destroyed until at least 2040


57 posted on 10/17/2018 12:51:38 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Innovative

I ageee

The young prince can clean house of fundie trump haters all he likes

Not my fight

It’s a tough neighborhood


58 posted on 10/17/2018 12:53:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (I donÂ’t care that youÂ’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it wonÂ’t matter what you were)
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To: jyo19

Saudi Arabia is reforming a bit

That’s not my business actually anymore than let’s see our list of strong arm friends we betrayed over the years was

Pinochet

Franco

Stroessner

The Shah

Brasil junta

Various Argentina juntas before the stupid last one

Marcos

Indonesian despots

Diem

Saddam

General Cedrás

I left out Battistas and Trujillos and various Latin tinhorns

But whenever we apply virtue signaling we fail ....and are left with worse more often than not

This Regent wants to move his country beyond fundies, petroeconomy and yes liberalize some th8ngs slowly....although I don’t care about their domestic issues

It’s their monarchy

House of Saud won it fair and square by force and respect and if they want to hold on by force so be it

This is the real world and our form of govt is not applicable everywhere....you might notice after 200 plus years were barely hanging on

I prefer having a Saudi Arabia friendly to us and Israel and willing to fight Iran

Maybe I’m just mean

I am very familiar personally with how this all worked out in Chilé and Haiti and Nicaragua and Brasíl....


59 posted on 10/17/2018 1:08:55 AM PDT by wardaddy (I donÂ’t care that youÂ’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it wonÂ’t matter what you were)
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To: DesertRhino
We are there solely because of the petrodollar.

We are also there there because we removed the primary counterbalance to Iran's hegemony of the region, when we destroyed Iraq. Kind of a "you broke it, you bought it" situation. Since the removal of Iraq as a regional power, Iran has destabilized the entire region, witness Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen, with lesser problems in Bahrain, and Qatar drifting away. Abandoning KSA is exactly the lifeline that Iran needs.

Sophistry? High Minded? Please! This is geopolitical strategy, protecting financial and political interests. No one is pretending here.

60 posted on 10/17/2018 1:10:35 AM PDT by ETCM
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