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Something is starting to add up, or not add up here.
1 posted on 10/16/2018 10:36:56 PM PDT by changedLiberal
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To: changedLiberal

and they covered up seth rich’s murder.

Enemy of the people. As if we needed any more evidence.


2 posted on 10/16/2018 10:39:38 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: changedLiberal

The guys not even an American. What do we care if the Saudis killed him?


3 posted on 10/16/2018 10:41:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: changedLiberal

Related:

The US-Saudi relationship must be preserved – our national interest demands it

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3697297/posts


4 posted on 10/16/2018 10:42:36 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: changedLiberal

Was this guy an American citizen or not? If not it is none of our business. If yes, then send the fbi in to help with the investigation. We do not know what happened and yet many are sure they are guilty. Is that how it is done now, an accusation is all that is needed to prove guilt?


6 posted on 10/16/2018 10:45:44 PM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: changedLiberal

Make sure to read all the links, and follow it all, it goes back years and years with this guy.


7 posted on 10/16/2018 10:46:09 PM PDT by changedLiberal
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Here’s something from a dubious Russian-sounding source (https://www.therussophile.org/sott-focus-the-murder-of-jamal-khashoggi-oil-sanctions-and-the-anti-trump-establishment.html/):

“In December 2016, a report in the Middle East Eye said Khashoggi had been banned by Saudi Arabian authorities from publishing or appearing on television “for criticising US President-elect Donald Trump.”

In September 2017, Khashoggi fled Saudi Arabia after the Saudi government banned him from Twitter, where he had almost 2 million followers. He moved to the USA where he began writing for the CIA’s paper of record, The Washington Post. Since then, he has written articles that harshly criticized the Saudi government and crown prince, Mohammad bin Salman, and the country’s King Salman.

He also opposed the Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen and, earlier this year, established a new political party called Democracy for the Arab World Now (DAWN), which was viewed by Crown Prince Mohammed as a threat to his rule.”


8 posted on 10/16/2018 10:47:28 PM PDT by BeauBo
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12 posted on 10/16/2018 10:55:36 PM PDT by conservative98
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Something we do not know , it is that while the Saudis prevent churches from being built, they also prevent dangerous mosques. All their deranged mosque preachers set up shop out west because no one in the Mid East want them around.

The west has a problem with breeding terrorism much like Iran does. It is not inconceivable that one day the Saudis could threaten a European nation for breeding terrorists that create trouble in the Mid East just as we do sanctions on Iran or what not for the same reasons.


17 posted on 10/16/2018 11:11:30 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: changedLiberal
In high school, Jamal Khashoggi had a good friend. His name was Osama bin Laden.

While this may well be so, the fact remains that Khashoggi was now a journalist working and living in the US as a permanent resident (the last step on the road to US citizenship) who may have been kidnapped and murdered by the Saudi government. Khashoggi's friendships in high school will do nothing to stop bipartisan calls to punish the Saudis for this act.
18 posted on 10/16/2018 11:15:08 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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How do we even know Koshoggi is even actually dead? We have only the Turkish Government’s accusation of it don’t we?.

I wouldn’t put it past Koshoggi, the Muslim Brotherhood and Erdogan to conspire to pull something like this to embarrass The best moderating force against Wahabbism and other forms of radical islam that we have in many decades, and to drive a wedge between that moderating force and the US, and maybe even start a war over the most idiotic reasons.

And even if the Saudis did kill Koshoggi (cousin of and part-time salesman for the world’s most infamous arms dealer, by the way.) it is no loss to the civilized world.

Anyway, I’m glad to see that we now know who took over for McCain as the Senate’s key idiot warmonger and Muslim Brotherhood dupe. Rubio.
Although I’m sad to see Lindsey back to his old tricks.


20 posted on 10/16/2018 11:23:23 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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Obama with his Cairo Speech, opened up with the Arab Spring resulting in the deposing of Egypts’ Mubarak, a dictator allied to the US, and replacing him with the Muslim Brotherhood’s Morsi, who, with plans known in Egypt to erase Egyptian history and landmarks Islamic style, was deposed by Gen. Sisi, and the Muslim Brotherhood was punished, bannished and fled to Erdogan’s Turkey, itself desirous of establishing a neo-Ottoman Caliphate in opposition to Saudi and Iranian competition.

Obama,apparently “Sunni Side UP”, had historically made his very first call after his first inauguration to....Erdogan in celebration. When Obama was re-elected, Erdogan made an early call back to Obama. They are...linked in Islamic unity apparently and I guess Obama favors establishment of a neo-Caliphate.

The Muslim Brotherhood is vehemently opposed to the Saudi Royal Family just as Syrian Sunnis are opposed, and have been for decades, to the Syrian Alawites, a Muslim minority tolerant of other religions and their Sunni-considered blasphemous Alewite religious practice in comparison to Mohammedanism.

H. Clinton, as opposed to Obama, has supported Gulen, the Gulen Charter Schools in the US as Gulen is apparently opposed to Erdogan’s vision for Turkey. H. Clinton apparently to be on opposite sides regarding Turkey’s leadership.

The Muslim Brotherhood, during Obama’s administration, formed in March of 2014 in Chicago, the USCMO, the US Council of Muslim Organizations for the purpose of advancing Sharia Law by using all means politically in the US of doing so, with both our parties if possible, but linking up with the Democrat Party as the venue for offering its candidates for public office all over the US and from local school boards to state and national levels. There are about, according to articles, a hundred Dem candidates representing Dem and Muslim Brotherhood common interests.

Why has no one basically heard of the USCMO:...because the mnedia has not covered the USCMO adequately.

The Muslim Brotherhood/Democrat Party (or according to B. Sanders, the Democratic Socialist Party which suggests the real Muslim Brotherhood/Nazi WWII linkage (look it up), links the Democrat Party to Erdogan’s Turkey and its interest in doing anything it can to get rid of the Saudi Prince, who is an ally of....Trump’s USA.

Getting rid of bin-Salman, who may have done himself in stupidly by getting rid of Muslim Brotherhood related khashoggi in such a Muslim/ISIS like manner, will cause Trump much necessary discomfort and perhaps the Dems further boulders to heave at Trump. A severance of US relations with Saudi Arabia, would apparently bring joy to the Dems, the USCMO and its parent, the Muslim Brotherhood. Of course the Muslilm Brotherhood spun off Hamas, Al-Qaeda,ISIS from AL-Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

In the same way, Communism/Marxism,Leninism, Trotskyism (the three Commlunist Amigos)spun off Nazism, Fascism, socialism and then the hybrids of progressivism, statism, and corporatism which I include for convenience of concept as the Western Socialist Spectrum of socialisms which continued after the WWII Nazi/Muslim Brotherhood association of WWII to include all the “ism” associated with the Dem Party with some overflow influence with high level Republicans..the “establishment”.

This association conceptually of an Ilsamo/Socialist spectrum, operating dynamically today in Europe, seems to encompass the post WWII political dynamics for me of Europe, with Europe’s variant socialisms being replaced successfully by Islam already visible with some analyists noting that Germany will be an Islamic state followed closely by UK and France. The use of Islam of the godless Western socialist political systems of secularism provide an irresistible tempting vacuum for Islam to fill as if the European socialist nation-states are just convenient Trojan Horses for the advancement of Islam’s Sharia Law.

In London it has been reported that with a Muslim Mayor, London has a hundred Sharia COurts and just under 500 mosques and that for several years Mohammed has been the most common male birth name. Sounds like successful Islamisation to me.

In sum, the Dems have a lot to gain with Muslim Political allies with the demise of bin-Salman, and, we well know Dem desires for the disposition they want for Pres. Trump and the 63 milllion, one out of five of the US Population of 330 million who voted for him. Furtherance of Turkey’s efforts to reestablish a neo-Ottoman Caliphate seems to be something Dems and the USCMO hope for.

Finally, the Paris Peace Conference of 1919 led to the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, I think in 1922, and the Muslim Brotherhood was established in Egypt by 1926, and allied with the Nazis in the middle thirties by intervention by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hussein, who became one of two Muslim Brotherhood generals of the Nazi SS professional shock troops of Hitler, operating in the Balkans. While the Muslim Brotherhood operates in the US as lawful civic organizations, they now are institutionalized into US politics at a functional level greater than the Muslim population would be expected to have. The USCMO has an agenda, indeed, and is the most rapidly growing new political force in the US in my opinion. It would not surprise me that there could be 300 political candidates for office on the Democrat tickets for 2020.

Here is the link for Gaffney’s Center for Security Policy recognizing the creation of the USCMO and its purposes and member organizations:

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/6361

This website at its header link section of “ARTICLES”, chronicals militant Islamic activity worldwide from the present, almost daily, back to 2005. It is a vast resource.

Are the Dems interested in the Khashoggi hit, you bet they are.

Just my 2 cents worth of opinion.


21 posted on 10/16/2018 11:45:33 PM PDT by givemELL
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From Greenfield we have this:

“The media didn’t show any of the hysterical outrage at these crimes that it has over the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi. The media cares more about Khashoggi, a former media mouthpiece of the Saudi regime before it turned on his Muslim Brotherhood brothers, than about 300 Turkish reporters.

It’s not hypocrisy, it’s consistency.”

That really resonated with me. He is spot on with this. I saw an eye-opening talk early last year from a Turkish newspaper editor now living here in exile. Abdülhamit Bilici would be jailed at best if he were still in Turkey. He barely got out of the country with his family and his life.

Turkey has gone from being a quasi-Democracy (his words) to a complete autocracy in the last several years. He was editor of the largest Turkish newspaper, Zaman, circulation ~1,000,000, until it was taken over by the government a couple years ago now, and ultimately shut down.

The video he had of the takeover of Zaman was quite sobering. This is what totalitarianism looks like.

http://youtu.be/9fN9bqOlaKM?rel=0

Yay, Erdogan. It’s time to kick Turkey out of NATO.

Story on the newspaper’s takeover from a 2-1/2 years ago.

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2016-03-05/turkish-newspaper-seized-by-government/

So Greenfield nails it - why was Khashoggi on the loose in Turkey, when Turkey has literally been imprisoning, torturing, and killing journalists for the last several years? And why is our media so quick to advocate for him and Turkey?


30 posted on 10/17/2018 1:02:26 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: changedLiberal

Ignore this matter. NOT our fight and Kashoggi is NOT worth it .


31 posted on 10/17/2018 1:22:43 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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Islamonuts killing each other.

There is no down side.


34 posted on 10/17/2018 1:34:29 AM PDT by TADSLOS (I hate Russian Dolls. They are so full of themselves.)
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He’s got a point.... Erdogan’s locked up some 300 journalists…. how come the US press only gives a crap about this guy and takes Erdogan’s word for everything?


35 posted on 10/17/2018 1:38:30 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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I get it why the US media goes ape over the disappearance of a radical MB member. They are just as sympathetic to radical Islam and as caught up in Obama/Hillary’s myths of the Arab Spring and the rapprochement by the US and Iran as were our naive Obama officials. Somehow, the Iran deal, a billion in cash on pallets, Benghazi, and the attempted overthrow of Egypt’s government and replacing it with an MB radical are all part of that pot.

But why Marco Rubio?


37 posted on 10/17/2018 2:24:08 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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38 posted on 10/17/2018 2:50:11 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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I don't care who killed him.
I might like to thank those who did.
44 posted on 10/17/2018 5:09:38 AM PDT by novemberslady
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In high school, Jamal Khashoggi had a good friend. His name was Osama bin Laden.

“We were hoping to establish an Islamic state anywhere,” Khashoggi reminisced about their time together in the Muslim Brotherhood.

[snip]

Ever since Civil War, DNC = terrorists: KKK, black panthers; muslim refugees, BLM ...


47 posted on 10/17/2018 5:26:37 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (News and poltiicians who ignore James O'Keefe are fake and evil.)
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bmp


64 posted on 10/17/2018 10:23:45 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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