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Supreme Court agrees to hear a case that could determie (if) social media companies can censor users
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Posted on 10/17/2018 9:52:58 AM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: morphing libertarian

“the feds should be doing this”

How. “Freedom of Speech” ONLY means the gubernut cannot interfere or discriminate in your freedom of speech.

A private citizen or a private company CAN control what their property is used for, and that includes determining views your private property may or may not become a megaphone for.

So, HOW would the feds stop Facebook et al from censoring - “nationalize them”???


41 posted on 10/17/2018 2:46:27 PM PDT by Wuli (u)
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To: P-Marlowe

I hope you’re right. They have always said they are a free and open mark et tplace of ideas.


42 posted on 10/17/2018 2:50:43 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: P-Marlowe
The question is whether a very large Social Media forum becomes a defacto Town Square”.

Another question is whether it became a de facto marketplace.

From Facebook's prospectus:

Advertisers can engage with more than 900 million monthly active users (MAUs) on Facebook or subsets of our users based on information they have chosen to share with us such as their age, location, gender, or interests. We offer advertisers a unique combination of reach, relevance, social context, and engagement to enhance the value of their ads.

Facebook is now denying access to large segments of banned users that advertisers expected to be there when they invested in building their storefronts on Facebook.

Compare it to the recent bakery free speech cases. The bakery analogy is not quite correct. Facebook is not selling cakes.

Instead, what if the bakery offered floor space to people to set up their own shops, using the bakery's ovens, refrigerators, storage space, and customer lists? Then, after you set up your successful business, the bakery decides to evict you because they don't like what you're putting on your cakes?

That's more like the Facebook model, according to their prospectus. Facebook is offering a generic storefront to people and access to Facebook's customer base. Once people establish a successful storefront on Facebook, Facebook is evicting them based on their product content.

And, that eviction is arbitrary. In Facebook's case, it was not their practice to ban content until conservatives won the big elections, which makes Facebook's action seem arbitrary given that they wouldn't be doing this if the election went the other way.

An arbitrary contract (in this case, the user terms of service) is no contract at all. I believe the legal practice is that an arbitrary or ambiguous contract term (like "hate speech" or "fake news") is to be decided against the party that drafted the contract, which would be Facebook.

Facebook could be found in violation of their terms of service, not the banned customers, if this goes to court.

-PJ

43 posted on 10/17/2018 3:13:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Blue House Sue

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Then the phone co. can deny you service “just cuz.”


44 posted on 10/17/2018 3:25:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Political Junkie Too; xzins

If suddenly Facebook was faced with a million breach of contract suit by people who paid to have their ads sent to the general poulationo, they could be driven into bankruptcy. And local businesses could sue Facebook for minor damages in thousand of small claims venues all over the nation.

By shadow banning and general suspending and banning for thought content they subject themselves to huge contract liability. Not to mention the constitutional violation of censorship on a defacto public square.

They have to either ban all political views or allow them all. They can’t pretend to be an open forum and engage in content discrimination.

This is going to be good.

I’m betting on this one SCOTUS goes 9-0. There is precedent in the mall cases.


45 posted on 10/17/2018 4:19:15 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Wuli

the large social media sites are now monopolies. Their control of political speech isa threat to the country. The feds have history of power to break up trusts and monopolies.


46 posted on 10/17/2018 5:40:00 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Valk Rider

What are you talking about?


47 posted on 10/17/2018 6:42:25 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Political Junkie Too
Facebook is now denying access to large segments of banned users that advertisers expected to be there when they invested in building their storefronts on Facebook.

I think an equal or better approach to this issue is to present a case to the Federal Election Commission that Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc, are providing direct and in-kind donations to political parties and candidates by suppressing opposing viewpoints.

48 posted on 10/21/2018 9:10:23 AM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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