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In Khashoggi Disappearance, Turkey’s Slow Drip of Leaks Puts Pressure on Saudis
MSN News ^ | 10/19/2018 | CARLOTTA GALL

Posted on 10/19/2018 2:28:02 PM PDT by detective

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To: Chode

Re: “or the reasons for the Middle East’s seemingly irrational importance in world affairs.”

I can think of four reasons...

(1) Oil

(2) Oil revenues spent outside the Middle East.

(3) Nuclear weapons and international terrorists

(4) Pathological hatred of Jews and our ally Israel


41 posted on 10/19/2018 3:36:51 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: grania

According to a Saudi source [not a Turkish one] they say he was killed in a fight.

Helluva fight …

I speculated a while back if it were possible he had gone in o martyr himself and had a butt bomb in him...like the guy who tried to take out the Saudi intel chief a few years ago.

I guess we’ll have to wait and see what this fight was all about.


42 posted on 10/19/2018 3:39:20 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: detective
Re: “I have posted many times about the false accusations in Syria.”

I have, too.

Thank you for your previous efforts and for your analysis of the Khashoggi issue.

43 posted on 10/19/2018 3:42:02 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: grania

“I have no trouble with there being a lack of evidence and not jumping to conclusions. I do object to the attempts to frame the guy as a terrorist who deserved to die while the issue is unsettled.”

Khashoggi was a friend and admirer of Osama Bin Ladin and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. His family was involved in arms dealing and has been accused of drug trafficking and human trafficking. Read his articles about the Muslim Brotherhood. Here is one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/08/28/the-u-s-is-wrong-about-the-muslim-brotherhood-and-the-arab-world-is-suffering-for-it/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2f8d2b248d01


44 posted on 10/19/2018 3:47:07 PM PDT by detective
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To: zeestephen

100%


45 posted on 10/19/2018 4:16:49 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: piasa

If what you speculate is true, and he was a martyr, why the coverup? If anything, that kind of thinking would’ve been a great way to frame him for his own murder.


46 posted on 10/19/2018 4:20:47 PM PDT by grania ("You don't give power to an angry left wing mob")
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To: detective

I’m not buying that. If it’s the case why the heck was he residing in the US as a free man, instead of in Guantanamo?


47 posted on 10/19/2018 4:22:01 PM PDT by grania ("You don't give power to an angry left wing mob")
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To: grania

Because the Obama Administration and lots of Muslim Brotherhood types in US government?

Just speculating.


48 posted on 10/19/2018 6:21:47 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

I’ve been asking a bunch of lefties why I’m supposed to care for a couple days. Best answer so far was because he had a green card, therefore he is a “US person”. Beyond that, crickets, and that doesn’t do it for me, either.


49 posted on 10/19/2018 6:30:44 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: grania

Why are Hillary Clinton, James Comey, McCabe, Feinstein`s Chinese staffer, Bruce Ohe, Nellie Ohr, the Podestas and so many others walking around free?


50 posted on 10/19/2018 7:59:21 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective

While there is still an outside chance that this was a false flag performed by rouge elements in Saudi intelligence, it’s looking more and more like and unforced error by the Saudis. Unforced error in the sense the it politically hurts their key ally - Trump. The Saudi’s killing a political opponent is par for the course in that part of the world. The fact that Kashoggi was a muslim brotherhood sympathizing operative is even less reason for us to care. But it can potentially hurt POTUS politically less than 3 weeks from mid-terms.

The Left didn’t care one bit about sending billions to the Ayatollahs so they could perpetrate horrors on their own people and around the world. Remind them of that when they claim that anything short of sanctions and cancelling the arms deal is unacceptable.


51 posted on 10/19/2018 9:19:48 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: detective

Yep - I haven’t trusted Turkey for decades..wouldn’t put it past them to manufacture something to try to Turn trump off the Saudis...or cause a lot of political pressure for him to back off the current relationship he is cultivating.


52 posted on 10/20/2018 2:40:14 AM PDT by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...)
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