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Insulting Prophet Muhammad not 'free speech,' ECtHR rules
Daily Sabah ^ | 10/24/2018

Posted on 10/25/2018 8:25:00 AM PDT by FreedomPoster

The European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) ruled Thursday that an Austrian woman's criminal conviction and fine for her statements accusing the Prophet Muhammad of pedophilia did not breach her right to free speech.

The decision by a seven-judge panel came as an Austrian national identified as E.S. by the court, had held seminars on Islam in 2008 and 2009 for the far-right Freedom Party (FPO) where she discussed the prophet's marriage to his wife Aisha, a child at the time, and implied that he was a pedophile.

An Austrian court convicted her of disparaging religious doctrines in 2011 and fined her 480 euros (548 dollars), a judgment that was upheld on two appeals.

Stating that the court had found that "the applicant's statements had been likely to arouse justified indignation in Muslims" and "amounted to a generalization without factual basis", the Strasbourg-based ECtHR said that the woman's comments could not be covered by the freedom of expression.

The court said it "found in particular that the domestic courts comprehensively assessed the wider context of the applicant's statements and carefully balanced her right to freedom of expression with the right of others to have their religious feelings protected, and served the legitimate aim of preserving religious peace in Austria."

The statement also added that there had been no violation of Article 10 of the European Convention of Human Rights, covering freedom of expression. "Relying on Article 10 (freedom of expression), E.S. complained that the domestic courts failed to address the substance of the impugned statements in the light of her right to freedom of expression."

ES' statements "were not phrased in a neutral manner aimed at being an objective contribution to a public debate concerning child marriages," the ECtHR held, adding that the moderate fine imposed on her could not be considered disproportionate.

The Austrian courts had drawn a distinction between pedophilia and child marriage, which was also a common practice historically in European ruling families.

The ECtHR also underlined that it classified the 'impugned' statements as "an abusive attack on the Prophet of Islam, which was capable of stirring up prejudice and putting at risk religious peace."

It noted that the Austrian courts had held that ES was making value judgments partly based on untrue facts and without regard to the historical context.

Religious beliefs must be subject to criticism and denial, the ECHR observed, but when statements about religions went beyond critical denial and were likely to incite religious intolerance, states could take proportionate restrictive measures, the court said.

Austria, a country of 8.8 million people, has roughly 600,000 Muslim inhabitants. Lately, it has emerged as the leader of Islamophobia among European countries. The coalition government, an alliance of conservatives and the far right, came to power soon after Europe's migration crisis on promises to prevent another influx and restrict benefits for new immigrants and refugees. In April, Austria's far-right Chancellor Sebastian Kurz threatened to close one of the biggest mosques in Vienna and urged municipal authorities to be stricter regarding state subsidies for Muslim organizations in the city.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; austria; brexit; europe; europeanunion; freespeech; germany; islam; jihad; nato; theresamay; unitedkingdom
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This from a Turkish newspaper, which means it’s a mouthpiece for Erdogan. I’m sure Erdogan and the Islamists running Turkey are quite happy with this ruling.

“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”

— Probably NOT Voltaire, but a useful quote nonetheless.

1 posted on 10/25/2018 8:25:00 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: FreedomPoster

How about insulting Christ?


2 posted on 10/25/2018 8:26:39 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

Some gods are more equal than others.


3 posted on 10/25/2018 8:27:31 AM PDT by rey
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To: AU72

Probably encouraged by the same crowd that made this ruling.


4 posted on 10/25/2018 8:27:38 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Insulting this cult leader who calls himself a prophet is exactly what free speech is about.
You as a terrorist wanna be might like it but to bad.


5 posted on 10/25/2018 8:28:30 AM PDT by Leep
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To: AU72

For that, they will even give grants from the National Endowment for the Arts.


6 posted on 10/25/2018 8:29:42 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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Insulting Jesus/Christians is free speech though.


7 posted on 10/25/2018 8:30:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: AU72

Netflix would go out of business!!


8 posted on 10/25/2018 8:30:51 AM PDT by Phillyred (Kieran Hussie)
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To: AU72

>>How about insulting Christ?
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Not just allowed, but encouraged.


9 posted on 10/25/2018 8:31:00 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Always believe women except: clinton rape, ellison assault, booker groping, ted kennedy murder)
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Satanic court, Satanic ruling.


10 posted on 10/25/2018 8:32:20 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: rey

Some satanic pedos are more equal than others.


11 posted on 10/25/2018 8:32:35 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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Mad Mo's proclivity to boink young girls who hadn't even entered puberty is recorded in the Koran. It is not an insult.

That's the fact, Jack!


12 posted on 10/25/2018 8:32:51 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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Aisha was Austrian?

(Aisha was the 6 year old girl married to Mo. In her own writings, she speaks of the marriage not being “consummated” till she was NINE.)


13 posted on 10/25/2018 8:35:37 AM PDT by left that other site (For America to have CONFIDENCE in our future, we must have PRIDE in our HISTORY... DJT)
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To: AU72

Well, that’s... different.


14 posted on 10/25/2018 8:36:40 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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Oh well, Europe has never been a bastion of “free speech”.
Ever.

Must be in their blood.

Which is one of the reasons they have shed so much of it.


15 posted on 10/25/2018 8:40:34 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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islam is a totalitarian death cult founded by a child rapist.


16 posted on 10/25/2018 8:41:01 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Join the #nationalprogressivecaucus #MOB and #Resist! just like everyone else.)
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The logical conclusion of this is also that the violent a people are the less you are allowed to criticize them. As it might antagonize them. There is no free speech in Europe.


17 posted on 10/25/2018 8:42:17 AM PDT by circlecity
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If someone gave a seminar saying “Jesus Christ was an Incel” no one would fine them


18 posted on 10/25/2018 8:43:26 AM PDT by montag813
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In all fairness didn’t he wait till she was 9 to consummate. ) :


19 posted on 10/25/2018 8:44:17 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: AU72

“How about insulting Christ?”

Best not to succumb to playing the game of “Well, I’ll go along with the inexcusable curtailment of my right to free speech if you treat the other guy the same way”.

Because insulting Christ will be forbidden, too.

Except nothing anyone says about Him will be found by the court to be an insult.


20 posted on 10/25/2018 8:46:40 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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