Posted on 10/29/2018 9:10:42 PM PDT by Salvavida
My Honduran-born wife uses Facebook to keep in touch with her family in Honduras. Many posts are her thoughts on the topic of the day, and immigration and politics are certainly represented in what she posts. A little about my wife, she served as an interviewer inside of a US Consulate in Latin America, and is thoroughly familiar with immigration law, the process, and the plight of those wishing to visit or immigrate to the US. She is 100% against illegal immigration. Why? Among other things, she also served as a finance officer of a hospital in Northern Virginia, and saw it change hands as a result of immigrants using the Emergency Room as their primary care, and the draining of the charitable foundations that are typically put aside for Americans that cannot pay. My wife gets it. She knows where blessing comes from: American hearts and their taxes.
Naturally, her family responds to the posts and I thought it might be informative to the readership to know the mind of an average middle class family from Honduras. Note that in the past 20 years, my wife and I paid for medical school, law school, and refrigeration vocational-tech school.
A. Here is a summation of the responses from various family members, I distilled them into these main ideas:
- 1. Her family is upset that she is not "in solidarity" with them, and my wife "forgot where she came from."
- 2. They assert the migrants just want to work and to flee the gang violence.
- 3. Hondurans cannot change their government-- it's too corrupt, so the US is their only hope..
- 4. They generally had no concept of how Americans thought about this-- they are thinking it's POTUS and a minority. (Comment- This is courtesy of the leftist press there as well.)
- 5. From their point of view, everyone knows friends or family members here, and know they live a life substantially better than they will ever have. So what has changed to cause a border confrontation?
(Hint: DJT's politics)
B. Here are implications that were not considered from their arguments:
- 1. Law breaking. The end justifies the mean, situational ethics.
- 2. No understanding of the concept of taxes (most Central Americans are not taxed- a Value Added Tax (VAT) is added onto most sales, nor the financial burden Americans have (welfare, medical, children's schools, etc) shouldered.
- 3. No respect for what Americans have built, and what was sacrificed. They want to partake because being poor sucks.
C. How are illegals able to stay (everyone knows this from the immigrant side, it's the Americans that need education):
There are no consequences.
No government form of ID is required to get housing.
No one comes after an over-stayed visa.
Access to school is free.
Saturation of pro-immigrant lawyers in the US.
D. Conclusion: The time has come to where migrants want your stuff, and there is nothing detering them. They have abandoned being citizens of their own countries. They are incapable of governing themselves, and being governed. They certainly do not think like Americans nor anything in which we value. Their system doesn't produce responsible, moral citizens. It produces a people that wants stuff. And they want it now.
“Costa Rica abandoned their military power so there is no threat of a coup.”
That sentence stumped me. How do they enjoy success in securing their border and avoid being over run, I wonder.
Seems conditions are changing fast, as Marx rises everywhere. I wonder if they will regret having no standing military power?
Thanks, I never knew that.
Not sure when Trump will give the directive to fire it off....but it’s surely coming. I won’t get into an further discussion about it here for obvious reasons.. enough to say the people Sessions is going after have the best attorneys money can buy and he’s going for a clean, slam-dunk masterful takedown of these criminals..remember they attempted to take down the American President and rig our election...They will not go unpunished.
The Gospel message has no borders.....
Toss in, family reunification and they go from 1 or 2, to dozens. I see them in Walmart. Man, woman, two kids that look to be under 5yrs old and one on the way. That’s, 3 kids at least, with one US citizen getting ready to be born, Section 8 and all the other goodies. Somehow, no one in Congress has ever asked me if I want to take on that financial burden.
I suspect their government is corrupt because it is composed of people just like themselves.
btt
Great legal refugees that have come to America....Italians, Irish and more recently Cubans just to name a few.....
They didn’t come for a free handout, wanted to assimilate, learn the language and become part of the American culture.....
For the most part, that’s not what the Mexicans and Central Americans want to do......They want to begin their time here by breaking our immigration laws, retaining their culture, language and national identity while living here tax free and getting the social benefits....
They had/have enough of an army and police force to defend themselves against and organized group of border crashers and possibly enough to delay an organizaed invasion from a neighboring country long enough to call in the OAS or USA for assistance. How that would ACTUALLY work out is anybody's guess, but neither Costa Rica or Belize (the other fully functional country in Central America) has every had to find out.
Both countries admit a limited number of refugees based on their ability to assimulate into the national culture and contribute. They also market themselves to U.S. retirees as a pleasant low cost destination for your golden years . . . a great way to earn money for them.
Places like Panama and Nicaragua, of course, do the same but lack the long history of stability against the ever present threat that a typical Latin American kleptocracy might just decide to steal most of your retirement real estate, bank accounts, etc.
A friend of ours who went on a cruise there said there are definitely two Costa Ricas. The Atlantic coast is dominated by resort hotels and larger retiree properties. The inland and Pacific side is dominated by locals with typical pastel covered cinder block houses (1000 sq ft or so) in neat little tracts. But their people are some of the world's happiest and friendly and exhibit little or no jealousy or even outright hatred of their wealthy neighbors.
They look at them as a source of business opportunity and even mentors. One such guy, a former Mormon missionary, set up a bottling company, employed thousands and grew so rich they he even bought and developed the top soccer team in the country.
They had/have enough of an army and police force to defend themselves against and organized group of border crashers and possibly enough to delay an organizaed invasion from a neighboring country long enough to call in the OAS or USA for assistance. How that would ACTUALLY work out is anybody's guess, but neither Costa Rica or Belize (the other fully functional country in Central America) has every had to find out.
Both countries admit a limited number of refugees based on their ability to assimulate into the national culture and contribute. They also market themselves to U.S. retirees as a pleasant low cost destination for your golden years . . . a great way to earn money for them.
Places like Panama and Nicaragua, of course, do the same but lack the long history of stability against the ever present threat that a typical Latin American kleptocracy might just decide to steal most of your retirement real estate, bank accounts, etc.
A friend of ours who went on a cruise there said there are definitely two Costa Ricas. The Atlantic coast is dominated by resort hotels and larger retiree properties. The inland and Pacific side is dominated by locals with typical pastel covered cinder block houses (1000 sq ft or so) in neat little tracts. But their people are some of the world's happiest and friendly and exhibit little or no jealousy or even outright hatred of their wealthy neighbors.
They look at them as a source of business opportunity and even mentors. One such guy, a former Mormon missionary, set up a bottling company, employed thousands and grew so rich they he even bought and developed the top soccer team in the country.
“There are between 11-16 million illegals” in USA
Even the government has upgraded the number from 11M to 22M illegals here now.
The 11M was a decade old estimate.
Free Republic is way ahead of the curve on that one, many here have been saying for a long time it’s around 30M which is also my estimate.
I’m going to ask the mods to put this in News/Activism editorial, it needs to be seen by everyone.
They can have bullets. One at a time, or hundreds in rapid succession. It matters little, to me.
And pay in Mexico is around $3.00 per hour and a worker would not have much, if anything, left over to remit back to families in their home country. Mexico is still a poor country compared to first world nations.
Put one bullet in a migrant without cause I guarantee you we’ll lose every election across the land. We need conservative solutions, not hate. We created this mess by ignoring the problem and electing people who didn’t do anything about it.
Invading our country is cause.
I see a whole lot of hate coming from south of the border.
Put that to the test and watch our opportunity for change vanish in thin air, and you will never get it back. Emotional responses are not the way out. This is a 40-year old unresolved problem.
The question is not whether it will be ended peacefully. It won't.
The question is whether the use of force will be on our terms or on theirs.
If invaders are intent on confrontation then there can only be confrontation or capitulation.
To paraphrase a line from Braveheart: The problem with sh**ty countries is that they’re full of sh**ty people.
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