Posted on 10/29/2018 9:10:42 PM PDT by Salvavida
My Honduran-born wife uses Facebook to keep in touch with her family in Honduras. Many posts are her thoughts on the topic of the day, and immigration and politics are certainly represented in what she posts. A little about my wife, she served as an interviewer inside of a US Consulate in Latin America, and is thoroughly familiar with immigration law, the process, and the plight of those wishing to visit or immigrate to the US. She is 100% against illegal immigration. Why? Among other things, she also served as a finance officer of a hospital in Northern Virginia, and saw it change hands as a result of immigrants using the Emergency Room as their primary care, and the draining of the charitable foundations that are typically put aside for Americans that cannot pay. My wife gets it. She knows where blessing comes from: American hearts and their taxes.
Naturally, her family responds to the posts and I thought it might be informative to the readership to know the mind of an average middle class family from Honduras. Note that in the past 20 years, my wife and I paid for medical school, law school, and refrigeration vocational-tech school.
A. Here is a summation of the responses from various family members, I distilled them into these main ideas:
- 1. Her family is upset that she is not "in solidarity" with them, and my wife "forgot where she came from."
- 2. They assert the migrants just want to work and to flee the gang violence.
- 3. Hondurans cannot change their government-- it's too corrupt, so the US is their only hope..
- 4. They generally had no concept of how Americans thought about this-- they are thinking it's POTUS and a minority. (Comment- This is courtesy of the leftist press there as well.)
- 5. From their point of view, everyone knows friends or family members here, and know they live a life substantially better than they will ever have. So what has changed to cause a border confrontation?
(Hint: DJT's politics)
B. Here are implications that were not considered from their arguments:
- 1. Law breaking. The end justifies the mean, situational ethics.
- 2. No understanding of the concept of taxes (most Central Americans are not taxed- a Value Added Tax (VAT) is added onto most sales, nor the financial burden Americans have (welfare, medical, children's schools, etc) shouldered.
- 3. No respect for what Americans have built, and what was sacrificed. They want to partake because being poor sucks.
C. How are illegals able to stay (everyone knows this from the immigrant side, it's the Americans that need education):
There are no consequences.
No government form of ID is required to get housing.
No one comes after an over-stayed visa.
Access to school is free.
Saturation of pro-immigrant lawyers in the US.
D. Conclusion: The time has come to where migrants want your stuff, and there is nothing detering them. They have abandoned being citizens of their own countries. They are incapable of governing themselves, and being governed. They certainly do not think like Americans nor anything in which we value. Their system doesn't produce responsible, moral citizens. It produces a people that wants stuff. And they want it now.
Then they can use that for the election and then we'll just lose to socialists and end winning. Good job, citizen.
You can talk your talk all you like.
The illegal alien invasion will not end peacefully. The instant we say “no” and back it up, there will be bloodshed. The bastards currently invading Mexico, with intent to invade these United States, have already resorted to violence against the Mexican authorities. Illegal alien invaders already in these United States routinely commit murder, rape, robbery, extortion, and terrorism.
You yourself admitted that these people are here to take by force what is not rightfully theirs.
This invasion will not end peacefully.
My thoughts exactly. They speak Spanish, immigrate to the Spanish speaking part of the EU.
; )
Very blunt. Thank you.
Would you also be fine with him not reporting them if he knew that they had murdered someone, committed burglary, an act of arson, voted illegally...committed ANY other crime?
Which is why they don't belong here. The average, responsible, hard working, American citizen should not have to pay for their children's education, housing, or the criminals food and shelter in prison.
Maybe we should go back to the days of "installing" a president in these corrupt countries.
THEY SHOULD JUST BE SENT BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM; WE NEITHER NEED THEM HERE, NOR WANT THEM AND THEY WON'T BRING OUR IDEALS AND IDEALS BACK HOME!
And for those who imagine that sending troops to Central America, to "teach" those people how to behave/ run a government...IT DOESN'T WORK and you need to learn some history! We did that in Haiti, for decades, in the 20th century, which didn't work at all.
May this be shared?
May this be shared?
I don’t want to send anyone down to Central America.
I do think while they are a captive audience in the tents they could be given information that would enlighten them.
By all means they should be returned as soon as possible!
Most welcome
Bears repeating
I guess it doesn't occur to them that Trump got elected somehow, and that all those Americans who voted for him just might agree with him.
Thanks for an interesting, informative post. I've long suspected that these people just don't know or care how Americans feel and how this affects us. They want what they want, period. This is all the more reason we can't let them in. They'll never "get" what Americans have worked so hard to build. We can't throw away everything we've built just to benefit these people, however much some may feel sorry for them.
I wanted to thank you for the thread and find myself reading it for a second time. I lost my wife last month, but she was from India (poor) and I find many commonalities between your comments and hers over the years. Especially salient is the comment concerning social contracts and perceived personal inapplicability because “the rich” take care of those things - yes, that’s EXACTLY how they see it (until they come here and assimilate).
Great post! We really need your perspective on these issues. I learned a lot. Please submit other vanities from time to time.
Thanks for your post. It confirms many thoughts I’ve had recently.
Allowing these invaders into our country is completely out of the question.
President Trump is right:
- we need severe vetting of people seeking entry. If you have no job history and little schooling, you’ll offer us nothing and you can stay out, permanently.
- the whole ‘downloading babies’ thing is insane and should be outlawed ASAP.
Thanks for the post and information.
Thanks for the ping!
Hondurans specifically (and Central Americans in general) get their news from CNN and UNIVISION, almost exclusively. Telemundo isn't as popular as the other two. That is a subjective unscientific statement.
That is key as it formulates public opinion. I had to chew on that, and then I realized how true it is. They do not look a Fox in general. Most of the newspapers will have a left or center left (from a conservative view point) bend on the news. There are exceptions, of course.
I can't believe I, a former intelligence specialist, overlooked this.
Handing out such info, to them, is less "helpful" than handing out toilet paper and birth control and shipping them back to whence they came!
They should be barred from setting foot on our soil, by any means possible; PERIOD!
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