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INSIGHT FROM MY HONDURAN HALF OF THE FAMILY ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION (Vanity)
My Family | 29 Oct 2018 | Salvavida

Posted on 10/29/2018 9:10:42 PM PDT by Salvavida

My Honduran-born wife uses Facebook to keep in touch with her family in Honduras. Many posts are her thoughts on the topic of the day, and immigration and politics are certainly represented in what she posts. A little about my wife, she served as an interviewer inside of a US Consulate in Latin America, and is thoroughly familiar with immigration law, the process, and the plight of those wishing to visit or immigrate to the US. She is 100% against illegal immigration. Why? Among other things, she also served as a finance officer of a hospital in Northern Virginia, and saw it change hands as a result of immigrants using the Emergency Room as their primary care, and the draining of the charitable foundations that are typically put aside for Americans that cannot pay. My wife gets it. She knows where blessing comes from: American hearts and their taxes.

Naturally, her family responds to the posts and I thought it might be informative to the readership to know the mind of an average middle class family from Honduras. Note that in the past 20 years, my wife and I paid for medical school, law school, and refrigeration vocational-tech school.

A. Here is a summation of the responses from various family members, I distilled them into these main ideas:

- 1. Her family is upset that she is not "in solidarity" with them, and my wife "forgot where she came from."

- 2. They assert the migrants just want to work and to flee the gang violence.

- 3. Hondurans cannot change their government-- it's too corrupt, so the US is their only hope..

- 4. They generally had no concept of how Americans thought about this-- they are thinking it's POTUS and a minority. (Comment- This is courtesy of the leftist press there as well.)

- 5. From their point of view, everyone knows friends or family members here, and know they live a life substantially better than they will ever have. So what has changed to cause a border confrontation?

(Hint: DJT's politics)

B. Here are implications that were not considered from their arguments:

- 1. Law breaking. The end justifies the mean, situational ethics.

- 2. No understanding of the concept of taxes (most Central Americans are not taxed- a Value Added Tax (VAT) is added onto most sales, nor the financial burden Americans have (welfare, medical, children's schools, etc) shouldered.

- 3. No respect for what Americans have built, and what was sacrificed. They want to partake because being poor sucks.

C. How are illegals able to stay (everyone knows this from the immigrant side, it's the Americans that need education):

There are no consequences.

No government form of ID is required to get housing.

No one comes after an over-stayed visa.

Access to school is free.

Saturation of pro-immigrant lawyers in the US.

D. Conclusion: The time has come to where migrants want your stuff, and there is nothing detering them. They have abandoned being citizens of their own countries. They are incapable of governing themselves, and being governed. They certainly do not think like Americans nor anything in which we value. Their system doesn't produce responsible, moral citizens. It produces a people that wants stuff. And they want it now.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; honduras; hondurascaravan; illegalsinvasion; immigration; invasion
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To: Salvavida
That makes things even WORSE, then; damned bunch of brainwashed MARXISTS are most assuredly NOT needed nor wanted here!

Are you going to blow the whistle on your CRIMINAL, overstaying their Visas relatives? And if not, WHY NOT?

161 posted on 10/30/2018 5:13:40 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons; admin

How I handle my family affairs is none of your business.


162 posted on 10/30/2018 5:19:47 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Salvavida

Well even here if it were’t for Fox and radio we’d have nothing but the left side.....and even they can slide left.

Additionally based on how you’ve spoken of the people they’re going to listen to what they want to believe..CNN and UNIVISION tells them what they want to hear..especially on immigration.

I can’t believe you’d overlook that either! ;)

Who ever controls the press ‘controls’ public opinion.


163 posted on 10/30/2018 5:21:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: Salvavida
Oh yes it is; since YOU chose to talk about your CRIMINAL family members, it's EVERYONE else's business!

And don't you dare try to claim that they "aren't doing any harm" by being here ILLEGALLY; they are!

164 posted on 10/30/2018 5:25:52 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You need to do some research. It isn't a crime for unlawful presence. There is no USC for that, it falls under immigration law, which is a civil issue.

Improper entry is a crime, which doesn't apply.

Before you pop off at the mouth know your subject matter.

165 posted on 10/30/2018 5:31:39 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Salvavida

There are thousand upon thousands who enter this country illegally every month. They do it for personal reasons, mostly economic imo, and they do not make a big show of it when they do.

This caravan is clearly for show. It is a political stunt and it is being coordinated and funded. The people may not be being paid to participate but there is adequate resources allocated including fresh clothes, food, shelter and transportation. The money behind it is political in nature, some of it funneled through left-leaning church groups, and their goal is to create political friction and ultimately a “clash”, which I hope will not happen in any physical assault on the border or violence.

There is no doubt that if this caravan succeeds many more will follow. Trump has no choice in this matter for many reasons. This is not the same question as the many migrants who enter the country one by one, though the left want us to discuss it like it is. This is an invasion being funded by foreign and domestic enemies of the country and the people in the caravan are being used for a political stunt. That they are poor and their individual aim is mostly peaceful economic, social and political freedom makes them the perfect marks for the people financially supporting the effort. They are being used to create havoc.

Think about the people financially supporting the caravan and what their ultimate aims are? What do they hope will happen when the caravan arrives?


166 posted on 10/30/2018 5:32:51 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Salvavida
Oh..."not a crime"?

Over staying a Visa is punishable by 6 months in jail, a fine of $5,000, or BOTH!

A repeat of doing so is a FELONY, punishable by up to a two year jail term, a $250,000 fine, or both!

Supposedly, 1/3 of all ILLEGALS here are Visa overstay criminals; though I'm betting that that figure is on low side.

And hitting "abuse"/posting "admin" to a post to me, makes YOU look really bad; not to mention foolish...especially when I broke NO TOS!

167 posted on 10/30/2018 5:41:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Salvavida

Thanks for the info/intel. We are being attacked by this bs from our lower border and coast to coast.


168 posted on 10/30/2018 5:51:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hillary has a better chance of winning in 2020 than 1 of those “bombs” going off! ~ Normsrevenge)
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To: Salvavida

CNN, UNIVISION.. there you have it. Perfectly paired. Perfect Storm.

Thx, Salvavida.


169 posted on 10/30/2018 5:51:30 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Ed & Academia are the FARM TEAM for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: DiogenesLamp; TomGuy
"Many from countries around the world come here and then spend the rest of their lives trying to convert their little piece of the US into the same kind of s*ithole they left."

Thanks to Dick Bachert for this reality hat meme!

170 posted on 10/30/2018 5:53:39 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hillary has a better chance of winning in 2020 than 1 of those “bombs” going off! ~ Normsrevenge)
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To: Salvavida

Already knew that. You’re forgetting something else, the radical leftists Spanish-language radio stations in the U.S. are spewing more garbage than either network. The government never wanted my services and will pay dearly in the long term. All I do, is rock my head back and laugh (like the video clip of the three black guys laughing).


171 posted on 10/30/2018 6:00:16 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Trump_the_Evil_Left

172 posted on 10/30/2018 6:01:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hillary has a better chance of winning in 2020 than 1 of those “bombs” going off! ~ Normsrevenge)
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To: Salvavida
I can't believe I, a former intelligence specialist, overlooked this.

Okay, I just put one "Aw Shit" sticker beside your name on the duty status board. As Intel types know, it will take ten "Atta Boys" to neutralize that one AS.

I actually kept such a board when were out tactically in these. My TCAE teams competed for best ratios.

173 posted on 10/30/2018 6:12:03 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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To: nopardons

Calm down, their Visas aren’t even expired yet.


174 posted on 10/30/2018 6:37:20 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: nopardons

Calm down, their Visas aren’t even expired yet.


175 posted on 10/30/2018 6:37:23 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: nopardons

Calm down, their Visas aren’t even expired yet.


176 posted on 10/30/2018 6:37:24 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: nopardons

Calm down, their Visas aren’t even expired yet.


177 posted on 10/30/2018 6:37:30 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: nopardons

Calm down, their Visas aren’t even expired yet.


178 posted on 10/30/2018 6:37:31 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo
Wasn't a good enough post the first time; let alone your reply being posted FOUR separate times.
179 posted on 10/30/2018 6:40:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
By the way, I agree with your premises. However, we should not make ad hominem attacks against each other. Not wise nor healthy. The immigration problem is huge and I addressed it years ago at a meeting of Freepers where Jim was in attendance. People couldn't see it then and many don't see it now. It will take some incredible leadership to restore order without a civil war.

Yes, you're right. Most Latin Americans absolutely hate us. I will vouch for that. Respect for us is going to have to come when many of them have to pay a severe price for the disrespect. We'll see how it turns out. We have to have unity on our side to get that done. Suppress the small differences.

180 posted on 10/30/2018 6:45:12 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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