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To: BeauBo

[...printing money.]


They’re not printing money. They’re using the same thing the Japanese did - easy credit. But the real estate bubble in Japan occurred without a lot of direction by government ministries. There was the usual corruption in terms of permitting, etc, but no different from anywhere in the West, although more significant, given the difference between morally-flexible Oriental norms vs rigid traditional Teutonic/Anglo Saxon norms on such matters. Whereas China’s real estate bubble has been directed by an unaccountable government that brooks no dissent on pain of prison terms or worse.

The Party aristocracy gets free shares in companies that come to them for protection. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/31/world/asia/chinese-tycoon-wang-jianlin-defends-xis-relatives-and-himself-on-business-deal.html It’s basically a gigantic shakedown racket that, while mild by African standards, is off-the-charts corrupt by Japanese or South Korean standards, let alone European or American standards.


21 posted on 11/01/2018 12:30:19 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“They’re not printing money. They’re using the same thing the Japanese did - easy credit.”

I didn’t mean physically printing paper money - I used the colloquialism for expanding the money supply (creating more total money). That is done by “loaning” more money to banks, which they can then loan out/invest (within the limits of what their regulators allow). It is just a ledger entry adjustment, rather than a pallet of cash, but it is just creating wealth by fiat - by make believe.

They have widely convinced themselves that this can go on forever (as Governments have so many times before), that that have a new magic formula of some sort. So when these tariffs hit, they will likely just do more of the same. They will just go to a bank and say “raise your asset sheet another billion Yuan, and make a loan to my nephew for 150 million to build another white elephant.”

As for the economic efficiency of their “investments? You pegged it with “off-the-charts corrupt”. If anything, it will probably be worse this time around, as more insiders will likely assess that the (economic) party is coming to an end, and this might be their last chance for a really big score, to flee the country with.

The Japanese had a “Lost Decade” that dragged on for about 20 years of economic stagnation after their bubble burst, but China has a bigger imbalance to correct, in percentage terms.


27 posted on 11/01/2018 1:12:44 AM PDT by BeauBo
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