To: Jacquerie
Why is it that so many conservatives believe that if a Constitutional Convention were held that WE would get our way on things. It could go the other way just as easily.
To: Artemis Webb
States will send delegates, not reps, with detailed commissions. The most likely outcome of the first COS is no recommended amendments.
5 posted on
11/03/2018 3:11:46 PM PDT by
Jacquerie
(ArticleVBlog.com)
To: Artemis Webb
Its gone “the other way” too many times to count since 1913. The months leading to COS will promote a public civics lesson that too many never received in high school.
8 posted on
11/03/2018 3:14:43 PM PDT by
Jacquerie
(ArticleVBlog.com)
To: Artemis Webb
Its not an unstructured fre for all, they would only vote on the items outlined as to why the convention was being called.
14 posted on
11/03/2018 3:21:47 PM PDT by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
To: Artemis Webb
Why is it that so many conservatives believe that if a Constitutional Convention were held that WE would get our way on things. It could go the other way just as easily.
And is likely to - there are far too many people on the Republican side who love the power of the state far more than they love personal freedom. Combine them with Democrats and this is a recipe for a radical revision of the Constitution which benefits no one but statists. I can't believe this is something the "right" seeks.
To: Artemis Webb
Why is it that so many conservatives believe that if a Constitutional Convention were held that WE would get our way on things? It could go the other way just as easily.
Because they are, for the most part, hopelessly naive. And it would go the other way almost at the outset.
Almost 10 years ago I wrote about this nutty idea and the likely outcomes. Back then things were saner ... one could only imagine the nuttery which would come out of such an event today.
If you care to read it ... The US Constitutional Convention of 2009 (the Wise Ones refered to are the talking heads, the learned experts found on almost any outlet like PBS and so forth.
24 posted on
11/03/2018 3:36:57 PM PDT by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
To: Artemis Webb
Why is it that so many conservatives believe that if a Constitutional Convention were held that WE would get our way on things. It could go the other way just as easily. I fear our Constitution would end up looking like the European constitution, with thousand of pages, trying to detail everything.
31 posted on
11/03/2018 3:47:59 PM PDT by
Mr Ramsbotham
("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
To: Artemis Webb
“It could go the other way just as easily.”
It already is going the other way. The leftist controlled corrupt courts are interrupting the Constitution to say whatever they want it to say. IOW, as Levin says, we’re in a post Constitutional period in America.
36 posted on
11/03/2018 3:53:11 PM PDT by
Electric Graffiti
(Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
To: Artemis Webb
There is precedent for it "going the other way." See
Constitutional Convention, 1787.
The Convention had been officially called to revise the existing Articles of Confederation, many delegates had much bigger plans. Men like James Madison and Alexander Hamilton wanted to create a new government rather than fix the existing one.
To: Artemis Webb
Respectfully disagree. States must ratify any CoS proposed amendments with the same super majority an amendment proposed by congress requires. It is a very high bar. Even considering the large majority of state legislatures presently held by republicans we are still short of the super majority required to ratify an amendment. So, while marxist mischief is certainly a concern, I think the threat posed is vastly overstated. Lets get our feet wet on this process in the first CoS by limiting the proposed amendment to repeal of the 17th. That way we can analyze and correct any administrative problems before calling a second CoS to completely defang the elites and the marxist swamp dwellers and any other aristocrats.
50 posted on
11/03/2018 4:24:32 PM PDT by
Nuc 1.1
(Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
To: Artemis Webb
59 posted on
11/03/2018 4:38:42 PM PDT by
Nifster
(I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
To: Artemis Webb
I agree with you.
I don’t trust the bastards. Any of them!
62 posted on
11/03/2018 4:44:56 PM PDT by
2111USMC
(Aim Small Miss Small)
To: Artemis Webb
Is that why Democrats are against it?
70 posted on
11/03/2018 5:01:54 PM PDT by
Hypo2
To: Artemis Webb
It’s not a Constitutional Convention; it’s a Convention of States, as provided for in Article V, Different thing.
An Article V convention can be limited to the subjects listed when it’s called, and since it’s a method for amending the Constitution provided for in the Constitution (although so far never used), all it can do is propose amendments. They still have to be ratified.
If it exceeds its authority and proposes anything really radical, it can be defeated by the state legislatures.
85 posted on
11/03/2018 7:38:40 PM PDT by
TBP
(Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
To: Artemis Webb
Amen and amen. Don’t let them anywhere near it.
To: Artemis Webb
maybe because we have bothered to educate ourselves on the actual mechanics of an article V convention? just a guess, here.
To: Artemis Webb
You’re exactly right. Keep in mind the current “delegates” to the convention would be the same RINOs that are obstructing what good Trump was trying to do and doubling down on big government and big spending. A BBA doesn’t mean they will decrease spending, it just means we solidify the right to raise the debt limit until it’s “balanced” on credit.
To: Artemis Webb
Why is it that so many erstwhile conservatives don’t realize things have been going “the other way” to tyranny for decades?
110 posted on
01/28/2019 7:40:17 AM PST by
Jacquerie
(ArticleVBlog.com)
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