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To: cynwoody
...control of the legislative body in question is of paramount importance. RINOs count towards control, but elected Democrats and spoiling, losing Losertarians, etc., do not!

That's why I'm not really sure I can believe the way the vote swung. I do know a lot of people who voted Democrat and don't mind saying so. But I don't know anyone who says they split their ticket. Of course here on FR there were plenty of AZ folks who apparently could care less about the 11th commandment after the primary. Perhaps we should ask them if they split the ticket or couldn't bring themselves to support a Republican in the most important ticket on the ballot.

Or perhaps there were a bunch of Dems who split the ballot? This is why I'm confused about the election results. I'm still not above smelling fraud in this election, because we know Maricopa and Pima catered to vote harvesting in the past and officials there resisted changing the rules even after it was on freaking video (people handing in 24,000 mail-in ballots at time? how believable is that?). It was only when the legislature forced it did it change.

We still have no proof that holding ballots back or substituting ballots to swing the election doesn't happen. It's totally infeasible to ever properly secure the mail-in systems in an un-hackable way.

104 posted on 11/13/2018 8:06:37 AM PST by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote...)
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To: no-s

That’s why I’m not really sure I can believe the way the vote swung. I do know a lot of people who voted Democrat and don’t mind saying so. But I don’t know anyone who says they split their ticket. Of course here on FR there were plenty of AZ folks who apparently could care less about the 11th commandment after the primary. Perhaps we should ask them if they split the ticket or couldn’t bring themselves to support a Republican in the most important ticket on the ballot.

Or perhaps there were a bunch of Dems who split the ballot? This is why I’m confused about the election results. I’m still not above smelling fraud in this election, because we know Maricopa and Pima catered to vote harvesting in the past and officials there resisted changing the rules even after it was on freaking video (people handing in 24,000 mail-in ballots at time? how believable is that?). It was only when the legislature forced it did it change.

We still have no proof that holding ballots back or substituting ballots to swing the election doesn’t happen. It’s totally infeasible to ever properly secure the mail-in systems in an un-hackable way.
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I agree with you. “bad ads” “not embracing conservatism” makes no sense when lined up against the other R’s that won the state including the governor. So a lot of Republicans voted for nutty leftwinger over bad ads?

ooooooooookay.


107 posted on 11/13/2018 8:34:49 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: no-s

My wife works in health care. She met a number of Republicans over 70 who planned to vote for Sinema because they believed McSally would take their Medicare and Social Security. Stupid, but then, most of them grew up in the NE & retired here.


109 posted on 11/13/2018 9:34:54 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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