[Shadow44]

You’re twisting yourself into pretzels to ignore the obvious. Urbanization is not the cause of this. Southern California was urbanized in the 1970s and 1980s, and it was a beautiful place to live in. Now it isn’t. Detroit used to be one of the richest cities per capita and now it’s in ruins. Even Minneapolis used to be nice, and now it has turned into little Mogadishu.

Immigration is the cause of all of this and we would have ZERO of these problems if these people weren’t even here in the first place. I seriously find it hard to believe you don’t already know this.

[Alberta's Child]

You're actually making my case. Los Angeles and Detroit are facing the same demise, and yet Detroit became a sh!t-hole while it was still populated almost entirely by American-born citizens whose families have been here for generations.

Go back even a bit further and trace the decline of Pittsburgh -- which is 95% black/white, less than 3% Asian, and less than 1.5% Hispanic.

It wasn't the recent immigrants who ruined these cities. It was the Americans who lived there before the immigrants arrived. In many cases, the immigrants are the only ones who even want to live in those places.

Proportionately, Texas has a comparable or even higher (as recently as 2016) population of Hispanics than California. Texas is booming, while California is in decline. The difference between these two states is that California has been run by stupid white Americans for decades -- while Texas is just getting started.

[Alberta's Child]

Here's an interesting report I came across a while back. It speaks volumes of the political and socio-economic changes we're seeing in the U.S.

The data is a little old now because it's based on the 2010 U.S. Census, but the correlation here between urbanizaton and politics is very strong:

America's Most Urban States

States with the HIGHEST % of urban populations:

1. California
2. New Jersey
3. Nevada
4. Massachusetts
5. Hawaii
6. Florida
7. Rhode Island
8. Utah
9. Arizona
10. Illinois

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States with the LOWEST % of urban population:

41. North Dakota
42. Alabama
43. Kentucky
44. South Dakota
45. Arkansas
46. Montana
47. Mississippi
48. West Virginia
49. Vermont
50. Maine