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Macron’s mistake is now a bigger problem for France
lowell sun ^ | 11/16 | peter lucas

Posted on 11/16/2018 6:50:45 AM PST by luke1825

Ask not what you can do for your country; but what you can do for me.

That in a nutshell was the essence of French President Emmanuel Macron’s prissy, Obama-like speech aimed at President Donald Trump at last Sunday’s Armistice Day observance in Paris.

Because if Trump, a selfdescribed nationalist, is putting America First, that means that there will be cutbacks — or outright elimination — in the financial and military assistance the U.S. has been doling out to France and Europe for more than 50 years.

(Excerpt) Read more at lowellsun.ma.newsmemory.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: emmanuelmacron; europe; europeanunion; france; macron; nationalist

1 posted on 11/16/2018 6:50:45 AM PST by luke1825
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To: luke1825

>>t would have been better if Trump used “patriot” instead of “nationalist”.

Disagree completely. Never allow the left to dictate what words mean, what words we’re allowed to use. It’s their most powerful weapon.


2 posted on 11/16/2018 7:20:13 AM PST by KyCats
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To: luke1825

Outright elimination of financial and military assistance to Europe. Please do. The sooner the better.


3 posted on 11/16/2018 7:39:09 AM PST by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: KyCats
Nationalist - a person who advocates political independence for a country.

Nationalism - synonym: patriotism

Yes, nothing wrong with being a nationalist advocating for nationalism. Our founding fathers were, and so are Americans that love this country.

4 posted on 11/16/2018 7:45:08 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: luke1825

While the two words are similar, a “nationalist” explicitly puts his nation’s survival above the welfare of those NOT of his nation.


5 posted on 11/16/2018 7:47:54 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: KyCats

The left wants to confuse the difference between loving one’s own country and believing that your country is the best and all others should be crushed. From the group that claims they understand nuance, they seem to miss the distinction.


6 posted on 11/16/2018 7:48:13 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: luke1825

“for more than 50 years”

For more than 70 years, actually. Can’t go on forever.


7 posted on 11/16/2018 7:57:23 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: KyCats

“Never allow the left to dictate what words mean, what words we’re allowed to use. It’s their most powerful weapon.”

Absolutely, he means the word “Nationalist” and it’s the word he should use. You can be a patriot without necessarily being a “Nationalist” although the two often go hand in hand.

Never let the left control your your dialogue because they color a word by intentional misrepresentation. Use the word often and drive home to the people it’s TRUE meaning.


8 posted on 11/16/2018 8:41:11 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: KyCats

The argument is apples and kiwi fruits

Trump is advocating nationalism for a soverign state.

Macron is speaking as a patriot of one of the states of a non existant united Europe. As a French state, advocating nationalism is wrong. Nationalistic states rights are superceded by the national EU soverignty


9 posted on 11/16/2018 8:46:32 AM PST by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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To: Robert DeLong
It was the Germans who forever distorted the concept of nationalism.

For the Nazis, their form of ‘nationalism’ had a definite racial spin..... so NOW, to be proud of your country is anathema

The people who hate US nationalism are the same people who do NOT know their history AND without knowing how or why, would support another tyrant who would hand them a twisted and deformed form of ‘nationalism’ they COULD swallow whole -like bunch of Nazis

10 posted on 11/16/2018 9:42:14 AM PST by SMARTY (Hatred is a feeling which leads to the extinction of values. Ortega y Gasset)
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To: SMARTY

“We reject ‘bourgeois nationalism’....The NSDAP is the German Left.” - Josef Goebbels


11 posted on 11/16/2018 9:43:58 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SMARTY

yep, they are, and yep on the rest of your comments. 8>)


12 posted on 11/16/2018 10:00:58 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: traderrob6
Use the word often and drive home to the people it’s TRUE meaning.
Etymology
from Latin etymologia, from Greek etymologia "analysis of a word to find its true origin," properly "study of the true sense (of a word)," with -logia "study of, a speaking of" (see -logy) + etymon "true sense, original meaning," neuter of etymos "true, real, actual," related to eteos "true," which perhaps is cognate with Sanskrit satyah, Gothic sunjis, Old English soð "true," from a PIE *set- "be stable." Latinized by Cicero as veriloquium.

13 posted on 11/16/2018 12:04:32 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: luke1825

The only people who back Macron are the 20% of surrender moneys in France and the wimp weenies in our execrable US propaganda press.

IOW, nobody cares what Macron thinks or says.


14 posted on 11/16/2018 6:14:16 PM PST by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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