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To: PIF

Why do you blame Mitch when it is Senators like Flake and Collins etc. who would vote it down. Mitch does not control them. An of course there is the 60 senator rule to get a vote to the floor. I just don’t understand your thinking at all and why a lot of folks blame Ryan. It is a certain group of GOPers that are holding the rest hostage and the Senate rules.


51 posted on 11/16/2018 10:40:09 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: hawkaw; PIF
The 60 votes for cloture is not necessary for budget bills, only a majority 51 votes in the Senate. The Republican Senate simply does NOT want to give President Trump the funds for the Wall on this last set of budget bills proposed by a Republican House and Senate. The House proposed 5.0 billion and the Senate 1.6 billion, who knows if a conference committee reconciliation will get any money for the Wall, rather than just “border security” which covers everything but the Wall...

dvwjr

56 posted on 11/16/2018 11:08:45 AM PST by dvwjr
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To: hawkaw

Its Mitch’s Senate. It up to him to get the votes to pass, regardless - my point was that it was not the House. If you don’t understand why its Mitch’s problem to cajole twist arms or whatever to get the votes, then I can’t help you.


65 posted on 11/16/2018 11:41:16 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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