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UK - MI6 spooks battling Donald Trump over release of classified Russia probe documents
Yahoo News ^ | November 21, 2018 | Ben Riley-Smith

Posted on 11/22/2018 10:31:05 AM PST by dennisw

MI6 chiefs are secretly battling Donald Trump to stop him publishing classified information linked to the Russian election meddling investigation.

The UK is warning that the US president would undermine intelligence gathering if he releases pages of an FBI application to wiretap one of his former campaign advisers.

However Trump allies are fighting back, demanding transparency and asking why Britain would oppose the move unless it had something to hide.

It forces the spotlight on whether the UK played a role in the FBI's investigation launched before the 2016 presidential election into Trump campaign ties to the Kremlin.

The Telegraph has talked to more than a dozen UK and US officials, including in American intelligence, who have revealed details about the row.

British spy chiefs have “genuine concern” about sources being exposed if classified parts of the wiretap request were made public, according to figures familiar with discussions.

“It boils down to the exposure of people”, said one US intelligence official, adding: “We don’t want to reveal sources and methods.” US intelligence shares the concerns of the UK.

Another said Britain feared setting a dangerous “precedent” which could make people less likely to share information, knowing that it could one day become public.

The current row is deemed so politically sensitive that staff at the British embassy in Washington DC have been barred from discussing it with journalists.

Theresa May, who already has a testing relationship with Mr Trump, has also been kept at arms-length and is understood to have not raised the issue directly with the US president. Trump's two-year headache

The row is about an FBI request to wiretap Carter Page, a former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, which was made in October 2016 - the month before the US election.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; carterpage; eavesdropping; europeanunion; fisagate; germany; mi6; nato; russia; spygate; theresamay; tories; trumprussia; unitedkingdom; wiretap; wiretapping
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1 posted on 11/22/2018 10:31:05 AM PST by dennisw
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SOME MORE-—

International intelligence concerns

Mr Trump wants to declassify 21 pages from one of the applications. He announced the move in September, then backtracked, then this month said he was “very seriously” considering it again. Both Britain and Australia are understood to be opposing the move.

Memos detailing alleged ties between Mr Trump and Russia compiled by Christopher Steele, a former MI6 officer, were cited in the application, which could explain some of the British concern.

Numerous spokesmen for UK and US government bodies declined to comment. Mr Page has denied being a foreign agent for Russia.

The row comes as UK intelligence agencies are increasingly dragged into a heated and partisan battle in Washington DC over the origins of the Russian investigation.

Mr Trump’s allies and former advisers are raising questions about the UK’s role in the start of the probe, given many of the key figures and meetings were located in Britain.


2 posted on 11/22/2018 10:32:31 AM PST by dennisw
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The US “intelligence community” asked MI6 to spy on Trump for them and MI6 obliged, now they don’t want their criminal activity exposed so they are making up some lies to prevent it.


3 posted on 11/22/2018 10:35:06 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Great summary.


4 posted on 11/22/2018 10:36:21 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: dennisw

A tremendous amount of information is “classified” because revealing it would expose and prove corruption and incompetence.


5 posted on 11/22/2018 10:37:33 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Expose them so everyone can see what criminals they are


6 posted on 11/22/2018 10:37:56 AM PST by shelterguy
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Britain / the Deep State / five eyes are against transparency . They all have something nasty / evil to hide.


7 posted on 11/22/2018 10:38:08 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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They’re trying to stop it because....wait for it..... THEY were in on it at the request of odongo and his ilk. IF he releases anything, they’re scared spitless that what they did will be revealed. Screw em.
Dear President Trump: If you read this, please declassify and release this info. Let the “chips fall where they may”.


8 posted on 11/22/2018 10:38:13 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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The UK is warning that the US president would undermine intelligence gathering if he releases pages of an FBI application to wiretap one of his former campaign advisers.

Trump has them by the short hairs.

Trump could offer to not release them (something I don't want him to do) if British intelligence makes a public statement clearing Trump of any and all accusations found in the Steele dossier and other claims.

They can save face by saying, 'we reviewed the documents and have found all of the accusations have now been proven to be false'.

9 posted on 11/22/2018 10:40:03 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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It wasn’t the Russians meddling in our election, it was corrupt Democrats and their deep state allies in England, Australia, and elsewhere.


10 posted on 11/22/2018 10:40:04 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: dennisw

You know..?

Maybe Britain is now an ENEMY.


11 posted on 11/22/2018 10:40:15 AM PST by gaijin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The US “intelligence community” asked MI6 to spy on Trump for them and MI6 obliged, now they don’t want their criminal activity exposed so they are making up some lies to prevent it.

You would have to be brain dead to believe differently.


12 posted on 11/22/2018 10:43:42 AM PST by heshtesh (Brtan)
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Dear President Trump: If you read this, please declassify and release this info. Let the “chips fall where they may”.

He won't do it.

13 posted on 11/22/2018 10:43:45 AM PST by CatOwner
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Maybe Britain is now an ENEMY.

Let’s just say I wouldn’t be holding my breath on them becoming better friend’s moving forward in time.


14 posted on 11/22/2018 10:46:45 AM PST by heshtesh (Brtan)
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“who already has a testing relationship with Mr Trump”

Maybe they have a testy relationship as well.

The filthy British “intelligence” gang has been using the US as their protection racket for far too long. Most of them are still Fabian Socialists who are only upset with Russia because it’s no longer the Soviet Union.

And Britain is not the country it was in 1945. It’s a polyglot Islamocracy, and if any one doesn’t believe that, why did they refuse asylum for Asia Bibi, the Christian woman from Pakistan?

If UKIP ran the place it might be different, but the deracinated Socialist sponges who live there now deserve nothing from us. Two world wars that they helped start and dragged us into is far too much blood for a gang of inbred has beens.

Trump should just open the floodgates on all these imposters and conspirators and let the chips fall where they may.


15 posted on 11/22/2018 10:48:09 AM PST by Regulator
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Personally have thought of the U.K. as an enemy, NOT an ally for many, many years. Goes back to King George, and reinforced years later by the Crown, and Rhodes. The U.K. is an ally of convenience only. Trust not in anything they proffer.


16 posted on 11/22/2018 10:51:58 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists call 'em what you will they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: dennisw

Oh, ya.....We’re supposed to care about the UK being implicated in undermining Trump.....NOT!!!!


17 posted on 11/22/2018 10:52:46 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Pretty much


18 posted on 11/22/2018 10:52:54 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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“It boils down to the exposure of people”, said one US intelligence official, adding: “We don’t want to reveal sources and methods.” US intelligence shares the concerns of the UK.

Sources: Hillary Campaign
Methods: Illegal use of a government agency to interfere in a political campaign


19 posted on 11/22/2018 10:53:28 AM PST by Flick Lives
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“It boils down to the exposure of people”,

people involved in tampering with our election at the behest of the Clintons.

20 posted on 11/22/2018 11:02:20 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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