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Are the Saudi Princes True Friends?
Townhall.com ^ | November 22, 2018 | Pat Puchanan

Posted on 11/22/2018 11:17:47 AM PST by Kaslin

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Are the Saudi Princes True Friends?

If you want a friend, get a dog!

21 posted on 11/22/2018 11:58:57 AM PST by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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To: quasimodo_79

Israel


22 posted on 11/22/2018 11:59:36 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ZULU

This fretting about how tyrants in “third world” countries treat people is a new thing and seems to be related to Democrats’ desire to see Iran become the Middle East hegemon.


23 posted on 11/22/2018 12:00:55 PM PST by arthurus (zx)
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To: Kaslin

Netanyahu and I believe Sisi too, have wanted us to go easy on the Saudis in this.

What I figure, is that states assassinate people, some states, not all. They got caught. They can be tried through public opinion. I don’t care if we have some Senators that are going to try and leverage sanctions on KSA per the Magnitsky act.


24 posted on 11/22/2018 12:02:08 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: Kaslin

No. 9/11 should’ve settled that question.


25 posted on 11/22/2018 12:04:06 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“Israel”

LOL - I was thinking you meant out of the Arab countries, not Middle East geographically. Ditto!


26 posted on 11/22/2018 12:04:20 PM PST by quasimodo_79
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To: Kaslin

Just friends,
But not like before
https://youtu.be/aTWbm4ZJ8C4


27 posted on 11/22/2018 12:08:10 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: arthurus

Yep.
Not a tear for Christians, Israelis, Zoroastrians, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.

Just Islamist monsters.


28 posted on 11/22/2018 12:13:52 PM PST by ZULU (Jeff Sessions should be tried for sedition.)
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To: Kaslin

Mankind has not survived this long by having leaders who are fans of tragedy. Trump is absolutely a throwback to the old warlords and that is not a bad thing. Bush was a scion of a “great family” who had been given way too may second and third chances and who bought into idealistic nonsense way too much because he has had the luxury to do so.

I get Trump, though he makes me feel like a slacker loser. He makes me want to strive to be a better and stronger person. Bush is just frustrating because he did stupid things out of misplaced “honor” that even I had sense enough to know were wrong. President Donald J. Trump inspires me to strive to be a better and stronger person, and that is what good leaders do.

I am in college and there are soy-boy types who have gotten themselves cleaned up because the idealistic division is stark. One guy in particular I thought was a lost cause. He is big, he is strong, he is smart, but he bought into the victimization incel narrative. He’s gotten a haircut, he started dressing nice. He is now a conservative. Trump is absolutely making a difference.


29 posted on 11/22/2018 12:25:02 PM PST by BlackAdderess (Dear GOP, please learn to punish bad behavior and reward good behavior instead of the opposite)
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To: Kaslin

Enemy of my enemy is my friend...kinda sorta.
Russia and Iran would love to drive a wedge in the US Saudi relationship.


30 posted on 11/22/2018 12:28:10 PM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: cpdiii

Perfect reply.


31 posted on 11/22/2018 12:29:59 PM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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To: Kaslin
The Saudi's should not have been regarded as friends ever again after 911. Administrations, both political parties, are guilty of blood on their hands for siding with them. How many regimes have been toppled and countries reduced to ashes because of policy that favors them? Are we really okay with Saudis slaughtering Yemenis with our weapons? Now, we don't need their oil but they have too much control over the US economy.

I thought President Trump was going to get us out of the Mideast and Afghanistan quagmire. Instead, he's making it worse.

If the youngsters in the HOR go into anti-war mode, they'll get significant support from both progressives and anti-globalist conservatives. It could be a real interesting coalition.

32 posted on 11/22/2018 12:31:39 PM PST by grania ("You don't give power to an angry left wing mob")
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Yet, Iran has not attacked us, does not want war with us and remains in compliance with the nuclear treaty from which we walked away.

Three lies in one short sentence from Buchanan. Impressive. Pat is either senile, seriously deluded, an evil POS, or a combo platter. (I vote the latter). Let's take Pat's lies one at a time.

1) Iran has not attacked us

Iran funded Al Qaeda from '03 until about '11, after which they started funding ISIS. The result: thousands of dead Americans, with exponentially more than that maimed for life. Oh yeah, and Iran's terrorist proxy Hezbollah murdered 241 U.S. Marines while they slept in their barracks in Lebanon in 1983.

2) [Iran] does not want war with us

So the countless "Death to America" chants organized by Iran's leadership over the decades are to ignored, because they really don't MEAN it. Meanwhile, as I pointed out in the paragraph above, Iran HAS been at war with us for a long time. Since '79, in fact.

3) [Iran] remains in compliance with the nuclear treaty

Actually, they've broken in many times.

But Pat must know this. Maybe he figures the best chance for Israel to be annihilated in a nuclear holocaust is with Iran. Hence, the mullahs have his natural and undying support.

33 posted on 11/22/2018 12:39:06 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Countries do not have friends, countries have interests.

Saudi’s sharia driven interests are diametrically opposed to America’s Constitutional freedoms driven interests.


34 posted on 11/22/2018 12:49:11 PM PST by null and void (Those who make change through the vote impossible make changes by force inevitable)
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To: Kaslin

The Saudis are better friends than the volks in the Lyndon LaRouche/SSPX gallery.


35 posted on 11/22/2018 12:52:34 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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It isn’t just the question of arms purchases, it’s about helping us fight against the Muslim terrorists, including Iran.

The Saudis are the number one state sponsor of terrorism worldwide.

Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Al-Nusra...all Sunni extremists sponsored by KSA.

Stop pretending the Saudis are good guys, they aren't.

36 posted on 11/22/2018 12:53:03 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Kaslin

No.

Neither was Stalin.

They are useful for our ends. That is what nations are to each other.


37 posted on 11/22/2018 12:55:47 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Mr. Mojo

Thanks for pointing that out. I’m a Buchanan fan BUT not always... and sometimes, you can find things he said that are wrong on the surface of things.

Iran has probably attacked us numerous times.


Aside from that, yes, people can say we have interests and not friends but from what I know, we’ve been in this relationship with KSA since 1948 or so.

I was for the first Gulf War, ‘90 but it would be easy to say that war was fought for Saudi Arabia. We had of course, a huge-multi-national coalition in that war.

I’ve had experts tell me different but I don’t care, if we reject KSA, they go to the Russians. That’s fine with me, I have not seen enough proof they are a good neighbor or friend. As I said, I’m fine if the Senate clamps down on KSA.


38 posted on 11/22/2018 12:58:09 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: Kaslin

Saudi’s are our friends because of convenience. They hate Iran and we hate Iran. So they work with us. There is no other reason. If Iran stopped exporting support to Lebanon and Syria we would not need to take sides. Iran is literally forcing us to support The House of Saud.


39 posted on 11/22/2018 1:03:05 PM PST by poinq
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They ride herd on the Saudi people. That’s a good thing. Other than tha, no, they are not our friends. Just folks that like our dollars.


40 posted on 11/22/2018 1:15:44 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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