Posted on 11/22/2018 11:17:47 AM PST by Kaslin
If you want a friend, get a dog!
Israel
This fretting about how tyrants in “third world” countries treat people is a new thing and seems to be related to Democrats’ desire to see Iran become the Middle East hegemon.
Netanyahu and I believe Sisi too, have wanted us to go easy on the Saudis in this.
What I figure, is that states assassinate people, some states, not all. They got caught. They can be tried through public opinion. I don’t care if we have some Senators that are going to try and leverage sanctions on KSA per the Magnitsky act.
No. 9/11 should’ve settled that question.
“Israel”
LOL - I was thinking you meant out of the Arab countries, not Middle East geographically. Ditto!
Just friends,
But not like before
https://youtu.be/aTWbm4ZJ8C4
Yep.
Not a tear for Christians, Israelis, Zoroastrians, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.
Just Islamist monsters.
Mankind has not survived this long by having leaders who are fans of tragedy. Trump is absolutely a throwback to the old warlords and that is not a bad thing. Bush was a scion of a “great family” who had been given way too may second and third chances and who bought into idealistic nonsense way too much because he has had the luxury to do so.
I get Trump, though he makes me feel like a slacker loser. He makes me want to strive to be a better and stronger person. Bush is just frustrating because he did stupid things out of misplaced “honor” that even I had sense enough to know were wrong. President Donald J. Trump inspires me to strive to be a better and stronger person, and that is what good leaders do.
I am in college and there are soy-boy types who have gotten themselves cleaned up because the idealistic division is stark. One guy in particular I thought was a lost cause. He is big, he is strong, he is smart, but he bought into the victimization incel narrative. He’s gotten a haircut, he started dressing nice. He is now a conservative. Trump is absolutely making a difference.
Enemy of my enemy is my friend...kinda sorta.
Russia and Iran would love to drive a wedge in the US Saudi relationship.
Perfect reply.
I thought President Trump was going to get us out of the Mideast and Afghanistan quagmire. Instead, he's making it worse.
If the youngsters in the HOR go into anti-war mode, they'll get significant support from both progressives and anti-globalist conservatives. It could be a real interesting coalition.
Three lies in one short sentence from Buchanan. Impressive. Pat is either senile, seriously deluded, an evil POS, or a combo platter. (I vote the latter). Let's take Pat's lies one at a time.
1) Iran has not attacked us
Iran funded Al Qaeda from '03 until about '11, after which they started funding ISIS. The result: thousands of dead Americans, with exponentially more than that maimed for life. Oh yeah, and Iran's terrorist proxy Hezbollah murdered 241 U.S. Marines while they slept in their barracks in Lebanon in 1983.
2) [Iran] does not want war with us
So the countless "Death to America" chants organized by Iran's leadership over the decades are to ignored, because they really don't MEAN it. Meanwhile, as I pointed out in the paragraph above, Iran HAS been at war with us for a long time. Since '79, in fact.
3) [Iran] remains in compliance with the nuclear treaty
Actually, they've broken in many times.
But Pat must know this. Maybe he figures the best chance for Israel to be annihilated in a nuclear holocaust is with Iran. Hence, the mullahs have his natural and undying support.
Countries do not have friends, countries have interests.
Saudi’s sharia driven interests are diametrically opposed to America’s Constitutional freedoms driven interests.
The Saudis are better friends than the volks in the Lyndon LaRouche/SSPX gallery.
The Saudis are the number one state sponsor of terrorism worldwide.
Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Al-Nusra...all Sunni extremists sponsored by KSA.
Stop pretending the Saudis are good guys, they aren't.
No.
Neither was Stalin.
They are useful for our ends. That is what nations are to each other.
Thanks for pointing that out. I’m a Buchanan fan BUT not always... and sometimes, you can find things he said that are wrong on the surface of things.
Iran has probably attacked us numerous times.
Aside from that, yes, people can say we have interests and not friends but from what I know, we’ve been in this relationship with KSA since 1948 or so.
I was for the first Gulf War, ‘90 but it would be easy to say that war was fought for Saudi Arabia. We had of course, a huge-multi-national coalition in that war.
I’ve had experts tell me different but I don’t care, if we reject KSA, they go to the Russians. That’s fine with me, I have not seen enough proof they are a good neighbor or friend. As I said, I’m fine if the Senate clamps down on KSA.
Saudi’s are our friends because of convenience. They hate Iran and we hate Iran. So they work with us. There is no other reason. If Iran stopped exporting support to Lebanon and Syria we would not need to take sides. Iran is literally forcing us to support The House of Saud.
They ride herd on the Saudi people. That’s a good thing. Other than tha, no, they are not our friends. Just folks that like our dollars.
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