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To: FatherofFive

Waiting for more explanation from those who know more about what this means.


2 posted on 11/22/2018 11:39:35 AM PST by MarMema (don't forget to stock up on dogfood)
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To: MarMema

“Waiting for more explanation from those who know more about what this means.”

The sun is our heater. The thermostat just got turned down a few degrees. This is simply history repeating itself. It will happen again and again as it has in the past. Science does not know why this happens but they do know precursor manifestations of the cooling period.


4 posted on 11/22/2018 11:47:04 AM PST by cpdiii (Cane Cutter, Deckhand,Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: MarMema

Valentina will be either attacked or ignored so as to not interfere with the Globull Warming Money Stream.


5 posted on 11/22/2018 11:50:08 AM PST by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOithS / PC guy forever and alway)
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To: MarMema

Sunspots create the solar wind. The solar wind reduces the shower of cosmic rays on the planets. Cosmic rays create clouds at high altitudes, cooling the Earth. You can directly measure the effect produced by the 11 year solar cycles, ratcheting up to the solar maximum. We have had several years of no sunspots or very weak sunspots. Now the thermosphere is the lowest it has ever been, and it’s height is related to global temperatures, the lower the cooler. This is how the Little Ice Age started.


8 posted on 11/22/2018 11:53:08 AM PST by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6)
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To: MarMema

She has a model of four solar magnetic field components which interact to determine the surface activity (spots and other.) She can plug in past records of solar observation data as a starting point, and recreate subsequent solar event trends observed at a later time, with an accuracy better than 90%.

By making a comparison of historically recorded solar activity and the associated weather/climate of Earth, she has determined a cause and effect relationship. Based upon the historical correlation determined to exist between solar activity and climatic changes, she has made a prediction of future climate changes based upon predicted solar activity. She says within a one to two year time period, there should be sufficient confirming evidence to vindicate the theory.


13 posted on 11/22/2018 12:21:54 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: MarMema

What temperature would Earth be if the Sun suddenly went dark? (Answer: Zero degrees)

How much CO2 would be required to warm the Earth back up to its present temperature with the Sun extinguished? (Answer: CO2 does not warm the Earth)


17 posted on 11/22/2018 12:47:28 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: MarMema; All
Winter is Coming – Super Grand Solar Minimumbrian wang | November 22, 2018

Professor Valentina Zharkova gave a presentation of her Climate and the Solar Magnetic Field hypothesis at the Global Warming Policy Foundation in October, 2018.

Zharkova models solar sunspot and magnetic activity. Her models have run at a 93% accuracy and her findings suggest a Super Grand Solar Minimum could begin in 2020.

A Super Grand Solar Minimum would have four magnetic fields out of phase. There was about 40-60 years of cold weather 350 years ago. This was a Maunder Minimum of lower solar activity. The historical cold weather had two magnetic fields out of phase.

Zharkova is predicting a cooling effect that is 2.5 to 4 times larger than the Maunder minimum. Zharkova’s analysis shows an 8 watts per square meter decrease in TSI (Total Solar Irradiance). A 2015 Nature study looked at 2 watts per square meter decrease causing a 0.13-degree celsius effect. A four times larger effect would be 0.5-degree celsius.

Zharkova believes the warming models are including the warming effect of increased solar activity. If she is correct there would be cooling and the warming models would be wrong.

Numerous studies have identified links between past climate and solar variability. During the Maunder Minimum (1645-1715), very few sunspots were seen despite regular observations. If the past relationships between TSI and ultraviolet irradiance and sunspots are the same as are observed for modern solar variability, then a decline in both TSI and ultraviolet for this period can be assumed. The Maunder Minimum coincided with more severe winters in the UK and continental Europe and many reconstructions suggest atmospheric conditions were broadly comparable with the regional effects on European atmospheric circulation found here. Some modeling studies also support the idea that similar regional cooling and circulation changes occurred during this period.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/11/winter-is-coming-super-grand-solar-minimum.html

The original has a number of graphics that help explain the argument. There are also links to other and dissenting source documents. I suppose this phenomenon might explain the 'Little Ice Ace' from 1400 to about 1850.

25 posted on 11/22/2018 2:06:35 PM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: MarMema

Start here:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/11/02/the-millennial-turning-point-solar-activity-and-the-coming-cooling/


29 posted on 11/22/2018 2:30:16 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Democrats: Party over Country.)
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