Thanks vannrox. Heh followed me onto that mummies site, didn't ya? ;^)
Posted on 11/23/2018 8:05:31 PM PST by vannrox
Found it! NORTHWEST PASSAGE (1940)script describing Abinaki Indian tortures...
They captured lieutenants
crofton and phillips
and 20 other rangers.
Lieutenant crofton’s
brother is here.
He can tell you
what happened to them.
Yes, major.
I can tell you.
Phillips had
a strip of skin
torn upward
from his stomach.
They hung him
from a tree
while still alive.
They chopped his men up
with hatchets
and threw the pieces
into the pine.
They tore
my brother’s arms
out of him.
They chopped
the ends of his ribs
away from his backbone
and pried them
out through his skin
one by one.
Thas what happened
to crofton and phillips.
But they were soldiers.
Tey had to take their chances.
Read more: https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=northwest-passage
What’s with the repeating text? It happens all the time these days. When I read same thing twice, I stop reading the article, and go find something that isn’t wasting my time.
Thanks vannrox. Heh followed me onto that mummies site, didn't ya? ;^)
After reading explicit historically recorded and eye witnessed stomach turning accounts of the torture-atrocities that American Indigenous tribes practiced on their enemies, be they other warring tribes or white settlers, including woman and children, that rivaled if not exceeded in cruelty this Viking ritual, which I have little doubt also occurred, such being the bottomless pit of depravity humans are capable of.
LOL!
I had a book on photojournalism in college that had pictures of torture victims from the communist revolutions in South and Central America.
A common torture was removing the skin off the faces of the victims a few square inches at a time - lips, eyelids, nose, ears, etc.
Looked mighty painful, and one would live a lot longer than being eagle filleted.
Shush.... Don’t you tell anyone else, ya hear.
PING
My old man grew up in upstate NY, lots of indian lore up there. He used to scoff at the image of the peaceful indians at one with nature. They were, he said, more cruel than people could imagine. He never elaborated though, so I don't really know what they did other than scalping, which is really bad just by itself. Whatever it was he was referring to, I'm sure it was even worse.
That first time - for Jarl Borg - I thought that it was chosen as a way to honor the guy? I must be thinking of some other death sentence, where the guy was honorable, but he had to be punished and executed. But executed in such a way that he still made it to Valhalla. (Or perhaps I’m confabulating three different story-lines!)
I do recall a battle where some old guy joined them in hopes that he would be killed in battle so would go to Valhalla.
I went right to the fifty-seven years without a Super Bowl ring.
That's as many years as we have states!!
I'll be discreet. In fact, I won't even send this message.
I don’t believe a person could survive having their thorax opened. They’d be dead shortly after the vacuum was broken.
Saw an episode of the Man from U.N.C.L.E. where Solo was stretched out over some bamboo trees that had been cut to a sharp point. The plan was that he would be stabbed to death as they grew.
Dunno. I know of victims of Mexican cartels who seemed to survive a long time despite having their lungs exposed. The heart was reportedly still beating when they finally pulled it out, which they took their sweet time doing.
The practice does not make medical sense. If a person were opened up like is described by the blood eagle procedure, they would have died through loss of blood, long before the procedure was done. There is no torture if the person is dead.
He was right. If you want to know the true non-PC, you-are-there, unvarnished truth about the Indians during the time of White settlement and migration, I HIGHLY recommend the following books. They are all gripping page turners. After you have read these books, the Liberal’s guilt ridden historical revisionism, and PC BS, will roll off your back like water on a duck....
‘Captured By The Indians: 15 Firsthand Accounts, 1750-1870’
by Frederick Drimmer
“Astounding eyewitness accounts of Indian captivity by people who lived to tell the tale. Fifteen true adventures recount suffering and torture, bloody massacres, relentless pursuits, miraculous escapes, and adoption into Indian tribes. Fascinating historical record and revealing picture of Indian culture and frontier life.”
________________
‘Over the Earth I Come: The Great Sioux Uprising of 1862’
by Duane Schultz
“Over The Earth I Come, Duane Schultz brilliantly retells one of America’s most violent and bloody events—the Great Sioux Uprising of 1862.”
________________
‘Wild Frontier: Atrocities During the American-Indian War from Jamestown Colony to Wounded Knee’
by William M. Osborn
“The real story of the ordeal experienced by both settlers and Indians during the Europeans’ great migration west across America, from the colonies to California, has been almost completely eliminated from the histories we now read. In truth, it was a horrifying and appalling experience. Nothing like it had ever happened anywhere else in the world.”
________________
‘Scalp Dance: Indian Warfare on the High Plains, 1865-1879’
by Thomas Goodrich ‘
“Some of the most savage war in world history was waged on the American Plains from 1865 to 1879. As settlers moved west following the Civil War, they found powerful Indian tribes barring the way. When the U.S. Army intervened, a bloody and prolonged conflict ensued. Drawing heavily from diaries, letters, and memoirs from American Plains settlers, historian Thomas Goodrich weaves a spellbinding tale of life and death on the prairie, told in the timeless words of the participants themselves. Scalp Dance is a powerful, unforgettable epic that shatters modern myths. Within its pages, the reader will find a truthful account of Indian warfare as it occurred.”
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‘A Fate Worse Than Death: Indian Captivities in the West, 1830-1885’
by Gregory Michno and Susan Michno
“One of the greatest dangers on the western frontier in the nineteenth century was the threat of capture by Native Americans. The most extensive collection of what it was like to be an Indian captive in the West, with special emphasis on Texas, this is both a record of human brutality and a testament to the durability of the human spirit.”
_________________
‘Deadliest Indian War in the West’
by Gregory Michno
“Gregory Michno gives readers the first comprehensive look at the Natives, soldiers, and settlers who clashed on the high desert of Idaho, Nevada, Utah, Oregon, and Northern California in the Snake War, which claimed more lives than any other western Indian war.”
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‘Cheyenne War: Indian Raids On The Roads To Denver 1864-1869’
by Jeff Broome
“In this volume, Jeff Broome has done a marvelous job of mining documents filed under the Indian depredation claims system a federal Indian policy intending to preserve peace on the frontiers by allowing white settlers and Indians, alike, to file claims for the wrongs done by each other. The policy, the federal government hoped, would prevent frontier retaliations and violence. It failed miserably, but the resulting claims reveal nearly a century s worth of previously unheard white voices describing the horrors of Indian-white conflict. Broome focuses on the roads to Denver, 1864 1869. His engaging reconstruction of this era and place, as seen through the lens of white frontiersmen and women, will inspire other researchers to don miner s helmets and descend into this mother lode of heretofore-neglected historical evidence.”
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‘Dog Soldier Justice: The Ordeal of Susanna Alderdice in the Kansas Indian War
by Jeff Broome
“In his study of the civilian population that fell victim to the brutality of the 1860s Kansas Indian wars, Jeff Broome recounts the captivity of Susanna Alderdice, who was killed along with three of her children by her Cheyenne captors (known as Dog Soldiers) at the Battle of Summit Springs in July 1869, and of her four-year-old son, who was wounded then left for dead.”
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‘Girl Captives Of The Cheyennes: A True Story Of The Capture And Rescue Of Four Pioneer Girls, 1874’
by Grace E. Meredith
And then there were the English and Scots and French - with their ‘ ‘hung, drawn and quartered”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUV9BfM70lg
Becoming a burnt marshmallow at the stake was no picnic either ...
... and it’s not all ancient history - the beheadings are still taking place, Hussain would boil people alive in vats of oil, for one. And who doesn’t remember this? Doused in gas and burned alive -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwoiQuT49W4
Man can be as vilely barbaric NOW as in history. only thing holding it back is civilized rules of law...and we are never far from losing that protection.
Never get on the cattle cars
#14. ISIS, imitating the Communists and Nazis, Croatian Utashi, Lithuanian Nazis, and Arabs in pre-Israel Palestine Mandate.
American Indians were also excellent at torturing their captives, Indian or otherwise.
The myth of the “Noble Redman” is one that should be deconstructed for all to read. Then, perhaps we can address the Native Americans of today in realistic terms, not in “false images” and disinformation stories.
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