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Gender politics and the sinking of the KNM Helge Ingstad ( Norway )
Free West Media ^ | November 14, 2018

Posted on 11/24/2018 6:18:05 PM PST by george76

Returning from the NATO Trident Juncture strategic exercise, a Norwegian frigate collided with a tanker. Many are speculating that gender politics sunk the vessel.

The collision with the KNM Helge Ingstad left a big enough hole in the starboard side of the frigate for the warship to take on water. The crew has been forced to abandon the vessel, The Barents Observer reported. On Tuesday morning, most of the navy ship was already under water.

The warship, one of Norway’s five top modern frigates.. a mystery why the well-equipped warship couldn’t avoid colliding with the 250 meters long oil tanker just north of the oil terminal.

The weather was excellent while the waters in the area offer maritime traffic real-time shipping control. Also, there was radio-contact between the vessels when the accident happened.

The nagging question remains as to why the frigate, with all its radars and sensors, could not change course to avoid the collision.

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Judging by the sound record and expert statements, the crew made crude, almost incomprehensible human errors, making them look like amateurs.

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In the Norwegian magazine.. stated that “Four out of five navigators on frigate KNM Helge Ingstad are women“.

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Norwegians boast about gender equality in their Navy, they also explained that they are looking into every department of their Armed Forces to apply the same formula.

Norway’s Ministry of Defence has not yet reported whether they plan to lift the frigate from where it sunk to repair the vessel.

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Not only did the demise of the uninsured frigate cost the Norwegian Navy its entire annual budget, but the country lost millions with several oil and gas fields which were temporarily shut down due to the accident.

Since the oil companies pay 78 percent taxes to the state

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; diversity; europe; genderpolitics; helge; helgeingstad; ingstad; knmhelgeingstad; multiculturalism; nato; navy; norway; tolerance
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To: wally_bert

Bravo!


41 posted on 11/24/2018 8:06:27 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: george76

I assume the ship will have almost no salvage value given all the electronics are under water.


42 posted on 11/24/2018 8:10:49 PM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: SaveFerris

I guess they’ll be calling that spot Frigate Shoals going forward...


43 posted on 11/24/2018 8:16:07 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

I guess by running it aground it ain’t as deep as it would have been.

There are other pics showing part of the gash. Looks like the starboard aft (if that’s calling it correctly) was severely damaged.

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/norway-frigate.jpg


44 posted on 11/24/2018 8:24:11 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: UCANSEE2

45 posted on 11/24/2018 9:15:00 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: george76
“Four out of five navigators on frigate KNM Helge Ingstad are women“

Therefore, this was obviously the man's fault.

46 posted on 11/24/2018 10:14:11 PM PST by TChad
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To: george76
Who was Helge Ingsted?

Helge Marcus Ingstad was a Norwegian explorer. After mapping some Norse settlements, Ingstad and his wife Anne Stine, an archaeologist, in 1960 found remnants of a Viking settlement in L’Anse aux Meadows in the province of Newfoundland in Canada.

47 posted on 11/25/2018 12:03:25 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: george76

The unfortunate frigate was one of the Fridtjof Nansen Class: Fridtjof Nansen-class ​​​​The frigates are equipped to fight in all maritime warfare areas, anti-aircraft, at the surface and under water. From 2015, the frigates will be supplemented with NH90 helicopters. This will make the frigates more flexible, also when it comes to participating in national and international operations. The last of five frigate​s was handed over to the Navy in January 2011. The five frigates are: KNM Fridtjof Nansen, KNM Roald Amundsen, KNM Otto Sverdrup, KNM Helge Ingstad and KNM Thor Heyerdahl.​ Manufacturer: Navantia Armament: Evolved Sea Sparrow-missile (ESSM) with Vertical Launcher System (VLS), new sea missiles (NSM), Sting Ray torpedoes, OTO Melara cannon, depth charges Dimensions: 134 metres (length) – 16.8 metres (width) – 31 metres (max height) – 7.6 metres (draught)​ Displacement: 5,290 tonnes Crew: 120+ Speed: 26 knots Published 11 June 2015 13:39. Last updated 28 June 2016 10:56.


48 posted on 11/25/2018 12:03:25 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: george76

Aluminimum hull. Anybody remember The HMS Sheffield ?


49 posted on 11/25/2018 2:23:57 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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To: george76

If you could just watch my wife backing into the driveway one time you’d understand this issue.


50 posted on 11/25/2018 3:13:17 AM PST by MrKatykelly (Hello)
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To: george76

Several years ago, I drove a Cadillac Deville. Not a compact sized car, one of the big ones. For about a year I parallel parked that car five days a week with no problems whatsoever. My ex, on the other hand, wouldn’t even try to parallel park any size vehicle. I’ve also managed to navigate myself around for the past 4 decades or so, with and without GPS.

All that being said, I’ve never been in favor of putting women into jobs just because they are female. I think a female should have to fulfill the exact same requirements that a male does to perform the same job. (I would say the same thing for race or ethnicity or anything else). Maybe I’m crazy, but I think people should be in a job based on one thing only: the ability to perform that job.


51 posted on 11/25/2018 7:39:08 AM PST by susannah59
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To: BenLurkin; EODGUY; SunkenCiv; Lazamataz

Remember always to wrap a shiny band of reflective tape around your arm when wearing camouflage fatigues on the bridge of a Navy ship.

Otherwise, they cannot find you in the dark to treat your flash burns when smoke and flames fill the compartment because you’re wearing FLAMMABLE CAMOUFLAGE FATIGUES IN A WARSHIP!


52 posted on 11/25/2018 10:49:15 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: Robert A Cook PE
Thanks Robert A Cook PE, sounds like good advice. And don't ever fall for the washtub gag the first time you cross the Equator. And if someone in a group with a live goat hands you oversized galoshes, DO NOT put them on.

53 posted on 11/25/2018 12:02:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: susannah59

Spoken like a brilliant, confident, capable, conservative woman. (Please excuse the redundancy....the term, “conservative woman” embodies the three previous characteristics.)


54 posted on 11/25/2018 12:53:41 PM PST by EODGUY ("You don't have to go home.......but you can't stay here" Joliet Jake)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

.....I understand the video of the wheelhouse just prior to the collision showed the pilot rubbing two dog-tags together pleading, “Speak to me Goose”.


55 posted on 11/25/2018 12:56:34 PM PST by EODGUY ("You don't have to go home.......but you can't stay here" Joliet Jake)
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To: SunkenCiv

8<) No goats (well, a few chiefs) when I crossed the line back in 1975 off the Brazil coast on the way to Argentina.

Had so many newbies going down that they had to run the Crossing Ceremony in watches! (Then the XO cut off fresh water for those in the second watch not quick to wash off quick enough.)


56 posted on 11/25/2018 5:05:55 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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