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Posted on 11/25/2018 4:29:10 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
Good as it gets. I spent the weekends in the 60’s in the Keys fishing the briges,nothing like it. Had it all to ourselves back then. You could take a nap on US one don’t try it today.
Yeah for sure the double standard is alive and well.
Hmmmm, is the primary hate fest of all NON Trumpians forgiven/forgotten or are some people recovering their cognitive abilities?
LOL dont count it out!!
I see the bama team won again 242 to 3 those guys are awesome.
Right, and the NeverTrumpers were never ripping on Trumpets 24/7/365. Levin finally admitted he was wrong about Trump.
Were you one of those guys I read about in Salt Water Sportsman who would stick a long rod out the car window and “troll” US 1?
Doing a hatefest on people who supported someone other than Trump in the primaries is the issue here.Yes, Trump has been very good on many issues and the Cruz supporters like me, we are happy and satisfied with the way Trump is doing going head to head with the propaganda organs.
We are happy with Trump's judicial appointments - EVEN while pissed at the Trurle/RINO for slow waking many of these and other Federal appointments that Trump is trying to get through
A word of for warning - The economy, for which Trump has taken credit will turn down, just like the Stock market.
And when this happens later 2019/2020 the Re-election fight - even the primaries will have non stop propaganda.
It will be interesting to see how many here will resurface with their hate filled B.S.
NeverTrumpers, like Levin, or the really NeverTrumpers like Jonah Goldberg of National Review - Who will you be trashing, are we all alike? Does anyone think, is that too much to ask for?
The Sunday political talk shows 11/25/18
Below the FreeRepublic Sunday talk show thread link.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3708285/posts?page=1
The major talking points of the day
Discussion of the Saudi murder,the Mexican caravan, Dems. Relate their plans to impeach, impeach, impeach.
Highlight of Fox News Sunday:
Ben Sasse promotes his book, the hell with the country
Link to Fox News Sunday Below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pb85DVrIMs
Highlight of Meet the Press:
Elijah Cummings says the Dems will be careful with issuing subpoenas….will do very carefully. Mike Lee disagrees with Trump’s stance on the Saudi murder.
Link to Meet the Press show below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs4nJc58Uko
Highlight of Face the Nation
Bernie Sanders too wrote a book?
Below the link to Face the Nation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u9s5xr1xis
Highlight of This Week with George Stephanopolous
Amy Klobuchar, D from Minn. States Trump, controls the White House, the Senate and the House. Where’s she been?
Link to This Week below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpDFmrl-1NU
Highlight of State of the Union
Adam Schitt says we should look at Trump’s bank account, his tax returns, his toilet paper…..there’s gotta be something in there somewhere.
Link to This Week below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnuq9li20Rg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2owk-0EeQn4
Ding, ding, ding - we have a thread winnah!
This guy came up with the same thing i did leftout a lot and introduced a lot of the legal ramifications i didn't get.
Here it is:
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How Roberts Was Blackmailed To Support ObamaCare March 2, 2015 T.J. McCann
I originally wrote this article and presented the research on January 28, 2013, on a now defunct forum LibertyCaucus.com, posted under my nickname “Trip”. The story got serious traction across the blogosphere, and was picked up at such sites as “WhatReallyHappened” and “BeforeItsNews” (Archived).
INTRO: Many of us have questioned what caused Roberts to switch his vote on ObamaCare at the last minute,, and did this so late that the Conservative Justices were forced to rewrite their majority opinion to be minority dissent.
According to some sources, Roberts wrote both the majority and a large portion of minority dissenting opinions. The liberal news outlet Salon.com has a story on July 3, 2012, “Roberts Wrote Both ObamaCare Opinions”, written by law professor Paul Campos, citing “a source within the court with direct knowledge of the drafting process.”
In this Salon article, Campos rejects the claim that the conservative minority wrote the dissenting opinion in response to Roberts’ majority opinion. Instead Campos’ source indicates that Roberts authored as much as the “first 46 pages” of the dissent, a full 70%, originally intended to be the majority opinion entirely rejecting ObamaCare. Only after Roberts switched his vote at the last minute did the remaining four Justices author the final 19 pages of that dissenting opinion. In support of this, Campos points out that it is extraordinary “in the court’s history that a dissent has gone on for 13,000 words before getting around to mentioning that it is, in fact, dissenting”, and yet there are repeated references to dissent from the majority opinion in those last 19 pages.
These facts may answer that question.
Roberts Adoptions:
In 2000 Justice Roberts and his wife Jane adopted two children. Initially it was apparent that the adoptions were “from a Latin American country”, but over time it has become apparent that the adopted children were not Latin American, but were Irish. Why this matters will become evident.
In 2005 the NY Times began investigating Roberts life as a matter of his nomination to the Supreme Court by George Bush. The Times was shortly accused of trying to unseal the adoption papers and intending to violate the anonymity of the adoption process… however there is more to the story.
Drudge did an article in 2005
http://patterico.com/2005/08/04/drudge-says-new-york-times-is-inves…
The NEW YORK TIMES is looking into the adoption records of the children of Supreme Court Nominee John G. Roberts, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. The TIMES has investigative reporter Glen Justice hot on the case to investigate the status of adoption records of Judge Roberts’ two young children, Josie age 5 and Jack age 4, a top source reveals. Judge Roberts and his wife Jane adopted the children when they each were infants. Both children were adopted from Latin America. A TIMES insider claims the look into the adoption papers are part of the paper’s “standard background check.” Bill Borders, NYT senior editor, explains: “Our reporters made initial inquiries about the adoptions, as they did about many other aspects of his background. They did so with great care, understanding the sensitivity of the issue.” Were the Children Adopted from Ireland?
At the time, the adoption terms of the children was uncertain. The Associated Press reported that they were “adopted from Latin America.” This indication should have been noteworthy, particularly given the Time magazine report indicating that the children were born in Ireland. Also, their blond hair and fair skin do not seem conventionally Latin American. 1
TIME had a “web exclusive” on the Roberts’s (7/24/05) and therein quoted a family friend as stating the kids were “born in Ireland 4 1/2 months apart.”
How were the Children Adopted?
According to The New York Times, based on information from Mrs. Roberts’s sister, Mary Torre, the children were adopted through a private adoption.
As explained by Families for Private Adoption, “[p]rivate (or independent) adoption is a legal method of building a family through adoption without using an adoption agency for placement. In private adoption, the birth parents relinquish their parental rights directly to the adoptive parents, instead of to an agency.”2
But was Robert’s adoption utilizing “a legal method”?
Apparently the process of adopting Jack involved some stress for John Roberts. According to Dan Klaidman of Newsweek, during the contested 2000 election, Roberts “spent a few days in Florida advising lawyers [for George W. Bush] on their legal strategy,” but “he did not play a central role,” because ” at the time, Roberts was preoccupied with the adoption of his son.”
It is now quite evident that the two Children were from Ireland. Even wikipedia references these adoptions at the time of Roberts’ confirmation, and indicates that the children were of Irish birth.
However Irish law 1) prohibits the adoption of Children to non-residents, and 2) also does not permit private adoptions, but rather has all adoptions go through a public agency. This would explain the children’s origin from a “Latin American country”, so as to circumvent Irish law.
Evidently Roberts arranged for this adoption through some sort of trafficking agency, that contacted Irish women, arranged for them to be transported out of Ireland and into compliant Latin American countries, from which they were adopted, thereby circumventing Irish laws — entirely illegal, but perhaps quasi-legitimized by the birth mothers, two in this case, transporting the children out of Ireland.
Undoubtedly Roberts and his wife spent a great deal of money for this illegal process, circumventing Irish laws and arranging for the transit of two Irish children from separate birth-mothers to a foreign nation. As of 2012, those two children have been with the Roberts’ for roughly 10 years, since they were adopted as “infants”.
Some might feel an impulse dismiss this information, mistakenly believing Roberts and his wife were doing a good thing for a children needing a home. This would be a narrow perspective on what occurred. Such an inter-country adoption would only come about at great cost, and those who utilize this method are creating a for-profit black market in adoptive children, trafficking across international borders, and doing so from mothers who have not yet given up their children except for that profit. These actions are promoting a very unsavory profit-for-children human trafficking market that even necessitates immediate contact with new birth mothers in dire circumstances to offer financial gain.
The entire arrangement is thoroughly predatory, turning children into aonly financial commodity, and even providing motivation for their birth mothers to give them up! That’s an important ethical recognition.
Roberts is not deserving of any sort of respect here, and is only the latest example of people in position believing themselves above the law, beyond scrutiny and exempt from repercussion.
It all now makes sense.
The circumstances of these two adoptions explain not only why this would be overlooked by an overall sympathetic media, but also why a sitting Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court would not want this information to become public fodder well into his tenure. Its release and public discussion would discredit Roberts as an impartial judge of the law, and undoubtedly lead to his impeachment.
This also explains why Roberts would have a means to be blackmailed, and why that leverage would still exist even after the institution of ObamaCare. …
And it has led to flipping the swing-vote on ObamaCare, which fundamentally changed the relationship between citizen and government, making us de facto property of the state, with our relative worth in care and maintenance able to be determined by the government. Essentially it was a coup without firing a shot, much less needing even an Amendment to the Constitution.
And it is consistent with Obama’s Chicago-style politics, that has previously involved opening other sealed records in order to win election.
Irish Adoption Law
The weak point in this theory, beyond actual proof of blackmail, is the actual terms of Irish Adoption Law. However an overview of the widespread Irish Adoption laws do bear out the assertions. As a result of Irish adoption law being the accumulation of laws over the years, this following synopsis is an accurate representation of that law given no singular code can be directly referenced.
Reference: Overview of Ireland Adoption Law (PDF) The above document makes the following statements:
“The responsibility for making adoption orders is vested in the Irish Adoption Board, An Bord Uchtala. Before a final adoption order is made, the child usually is placed with the future adopter(s) by one of Ireland’s Registered Adoption Societies.” [page 1]
Who may adopt?
… “While the Irish acts do not require the applicants have Irish nationality or an Irish domicile, the applicants must be ordinarily resident in Ireland or have resident there during the year ending on the date of the order.“[Page 4]
Adoption Authorities:
“The adoption process in Ireland is regulated by the Adoption Board — the An Bord Uchtala — which consists of a Chairman and eight members. THe Adoption Board is an independent, quasi-judicial statutory body appointed by the Irish Government. It has the sole right to grant or refuse to grant adoption orders. The Board is also responsible for granting the declarations of eligibility and suitability to prospective adopters in advance of their adopting abroad and for maintaining the Register of Foreign Adoptions in which the details of intercountry adoptions are entered.” [Page 4]
“Before an adoption agency can accept a child for adoption, the person proposing to give the child up must be furnished with a statement explaining the effect of adoption order upon his or her rights and the provisions of the adoption acts relating to consents. An agreement to place the child with prospective adopters must be signed prior to the signing of consent. The agreement to place must have been made freely, with full knowledge of the consequences, and under circumstances where neither the advice of persons engaged in the transaction nor the surrounding circumstances deprive the mother of the capacity to make a fully informed free decision. In particular an agreement to place is “not valid if motivated by fear, stress or anxiety or dictated by parents or deprivations.“[Page 7]
There are no private adoptions. There are no overseas adoptions.
All adoptions go through the government board, An Bord Uchtala.
John Roberts was not ordinarily resident in Ireland, and was not resident there for the year ending on the date of an order that never passed through the Uchtala Board!
Furthermore, it is doubtful that Robert’s adoption afforded the adopting mothers (two) an environment that fully informed each of them of their rights, and was free of stress, anxiety, coercion and “deprivations”. In fact it is virtually certain that the process involved removing two children and their respective mothers from Ireland, and any support structure they might have had there, not to mention removing them from the purview of Irish law!
This whole exercise was highly illegal and unethical. Even if John Roberts was not blackmailed, these conditions would undeniably provide leverage for extortion to use against a sitting Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
LOl! We don’t make uem that long hahaha.
Oh, come on, Dan...
Rocklobster is a conservative behind enemy lines, as you’re family once was.
Cut him some slack. I doubt VERY much he voted for Anus, LOL!
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>> IT appears to me that the majority of the voting People of Maine - A.K.A. Taxachustes North simply prefer their betters telling them to shut up and be good slaves. <<
Yeah, either that or horrific voter fraud.....not to mention “rank choice voting”.
>>Many here were calling that we vote RINO this election season because they are better than the Dems.<<
No, they are the same as RATs, but they have an “R” after their name, which gives the caucus a majority if there are enough of them....no matter how they vote.
It also gives real Republicans control of the committees. A bunch of conservative democRATs (if there actually were such a thing) would not do that....no matter how they voted.
Enjoy your RAT.
*This is an Urgent Summary Report on the Khashoggi Case. I will be following this up with a detailed article series and video reports at Newsbud. Also, at the bottom of this report I have a brief status report for my amazing Newsbud Community Members, explaining my three-month absence.
After 55 days covering the Jamal Khashoggi Case, 24 X 7, on the ground, in Turkey, with over 600 reports and analyses, via my pinned thread @sibeledmonds on Twitter (due to not having access to my computers and being equipped only with one cell phone), I am ready to conclude and publicize my investigative report.
The Khashoggi Case is a massive PsyOp concocted by MI6, CIA and Mossad, with the cooperation and participation of certain high-level Saudi Government intelligence officers.
For the first 53 days of my investigation of this case, while posting reports and analysis via Twitter posts on an almost hourly-basis, I had refrained from a definitive conclusion, partly to protect my sources, but also due to fulfilling the requirement of having documents and at least two direct named (and vetted/legitimate sources).
Yesterday I broke the news on the bombshell revelations by Former Director of the Turkish Military Intelligence Services, General Ismail Hakki Pekin, via Oda TV Live Coverage on Nov 21. See the 6-min video clip below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=ftTx1saPF2I
General Pekin, an insider with a long career in Intelligence who has high-level contacts and sources within MI6, CIA and Mossad, made the following statements (Summary Translation) while risking severe backlash from the government here in Turkey:
There has been intense behind the scenes competition between the UK and US over ARAMCO and it’s coming IPO, scheduled for 2020, via either the London or New York Stock Exchange (Many billions of dollars’ worth)
Jamal Khashoggi was/is very close to certain ARAMCO Board Members, and has been a prize sought by both US and UK players due to his connections
UK (MI6) concocted the plans (or fakery) to kidnap Khashoggi
The CIA and Mossad got involved in this UK plot
The Fiancé was some sort of honeytrap most likely connected to MI6, or possibly the CIA, and is not who “they” claim she is- not genuine
They may have selected Turkey as a secondary target to damage its reputation- With the US aiming to set up a Kurdish State in Northern Syria and the possibility of ending its alliance with Turkey
I’ve been seeking a second legitimate “Named” source for the above information, which I had already gathered weeks prior to General Pekin’s revelations. On November 1, a trustable source, a newspaper editor and investigative journalist with history and expertise in Intelligence matters in Turkey, Ergun Diler, based on multiple high-level Intel sources, leaked explosive information revealed by General Pekin with added details and specifics- See translated summary highlights:
The behind-the-scenes clash between the US and Britain has shaken the foundations of global intelligence.
On September 11, 2018, MI6 intercepted Saudi communications pertaining to plans to kidnap or eliminate Khashoggi. They notified the CIA and had three meetings in connection with these intercepted plans.
MI6 also sensed that the CIA might actually be a participant in Khashoggi plans intercepted from Saudi communications
On September 15, MI6 actually contacted Khashoggi and warned him of the plans against him (possible kidnap or elimination in Turkey) by the Saudis. Khashoggi was fully briefed, and was aware of the plans.
Why would Khashoggi go to the Saudi Consulate despite being warned of the plans weeks in advance?
Since no body (or body trace) has ever been found or seen, there is the possibility of Khashoggi being alive, and the possibility of this being a joint MI6-CIA concocted game with him as an active/willing participant.
From day 5 of the case I’ve been in the position of debunking the mainstream media’s narrative and reports based on researching the case and Khashoggi comprehensively, contacting sources here in Turkey and in the United States, including former and current intelligence and law enforcement experts, insiders, and journalists’ under-pressure here in Turkey. In fact, since day one of this case, unanimously, the media has been feeding the public around the world nothing but false and concocted information.
Khashoggi is/was Not who the mainstream media has been portraying. Right from day one the media published and marketed a false portrayal of this so-called victim, and did so intentionally. Jamal Khashoggi was not a journalist. He contributed less than a handful of fluff opinion pieces for the Washington Post (Of course a newspaper with a long history of CIA partnership). He was Osama Bin Laden’s partner and confidante throughout the 80s. He’s been on the CIA team since 1982. In the 90s he worked as a liaison Intel officer for Saudi-CIA cooperation. Starting in the mid-2000s he was an active Arab Spring operative for several NGOs, many of them funded by George Soros and the CIA. Pretty much everything fed by the media giving Khashoggi and his background almost a saint-like status has been false. Intentionally.
I was the first and only person to debunk the media reports on the alleged Turkish fiancé. Only a few months before coming to Turkey, Khashoggi, while still married in Saudi Arabia, married an Egyptian woman in the US/Canada, with a public and publicized wedding- a sharia wedding. I obtained the pictures of his wedding and his new wife. The media, despite being fully aware of this, omitted this fact from their coverage. How could he meet this alleged Turkish woman and get engaged to her while on honeymoon with this new wife? Then there is the background of this fianceé as an active member of the Muslim Brotherhood, her time in Egypt, and her connections to Soros-Funded Arab Spring NGOs. And let’s not forget her ever-changing story and time-line for the day Khashoggi entered the Saudi consulate. Again, for all the relevant documents, pictures, analyses and time-line on this alleged fiancé please go through my Pinned Khashoggi Thread with 600+ entries.
Instead of detailing all my Khashoggi coverage and making this a lengthy and complex article I am going to direct you to my twitter thread with hundreds of facts and analyses. In the next few days I will begin producing a series of videos talking about the case in depth.
**For my Newsbud community members and friends, after two unexpected surgeries in August I came to Turkey in September to open our Middle East-Central Asia-Caucasus hub. Why? Because we are at an historical turning point and there will be much coming up on the Iran front, Turkey, Russia … I want to be right in the middle of it all and with access to sources that I no longer can communicate with via our under-surveillance communication channels. After a roller-coaster period of recuperating, settling in a new country with a child, and finding our new office-studio, I am almost done setting up our computers, cameras, and establishing a filming team. I will have regular analyses and reports for my Probable Cause video show, but I will also begin a new series (announcement will come soon-in 2 or 3 weeks) with a very interesting theme I know you will love. I want to thank you for your patience during this unexpected absence. Those of you who can please follow my twitter posts @sibeledmonds for tons of updates daily. None of this would have been possible without your kind and generous support. You are my partners and friends, and with that I thank you all.
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