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Caravan mostly standard illegal immigrants, not refugees fleeing violence
The Washington Times ^ | November 28, 2018 | By Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/29/2018 12:44:50 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The Central Americans surging into the U.S. and claiming asylum look a lot more like regular illegal immigrants, eager for better jobs or to reunite with families, than traditional refugees fleeing persecution or violence back home, according to a new report Wednesday that challenges conventional wisdom on the migrants’ motives.

And while they are often referred to as asylum-seekers, few of the migrants from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador - the chief sending countries - are likely to end up winning asylum in the U.S., according to the study by academics at the National Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events (CREATE) at the University of Southern California, and the Institute for Defense Analyses.

Adults are most likely to come for better jobs, the researchers said. They can improve their incomes by 1,200 percent in moving from Central America to the U.S. Children, meanwhile, are coming for economic opportunities but also to reunite with family already in the U.S., they concluded.

“The standard wisdom [that] it’s all about violence could not be supported by our data,” said Detlof von Winterfeldt, a researcher at CREATE.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; caravan; illegalaliens; invasion

1 posted on 11/29/2018 12:44:50 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We are well into the 21st century, so why are those places still crapholes?

(Hint: It’s not OUR fault.)


2 posted on 11/29/2018 12:47:49 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Kristy Swanson Verified account @KristySwansonXO 1h


3 posted on 11/29/2018 12:49:17 PM PST by snarkpup
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Barbarian invaders


4 posted on 11/29/2018 1:01:14 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

To be a refugee you have to be a member of an identified group, religion, race, etc. that is being singled out and violently attacked.

None of these people qualify, there is no such thing going on in Honduras. There’s just poverty and the crime that always lives with poverty.


5 posted on 11/29/2018 1:02:15 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (R. Do Not Respond To Vanity Posts.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As Fox News pointed it out, they are mostly young males.


6 posted on 11/29/2018 1:22:50 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“few of the migrants from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador - the chief sending countries - are likely to end up winning asylum in the U.S.”

The problem is that simply asking for asylum means they can’t be deported at the border quickly.

“Under both US law and international law, anyone who seeks asylum at a port of entry into the United States must be received, allowed to request asylum, and referred to an asylum officer for the of review their claim.”

“Turning these people away from the border would mean that US authorities were breaking the law.”

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/10/fact-vs-fiction-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-caravan-passing-through-mexico-on-its-way-to-the-usa/

No border wall will be effective as long as the invaders can ask any USCIS person at any port of entry for “asylum” and Article 23 welfare benefits and lightning fast Article 34 naturalization to start the chain migration process for their relatives.

The Republican Congress needs to denounce [get out from under] the Refugee Convention.

“Article 44 denunciation
1. Any Contracting State may denounce this Convention at any time by a notification addressed to the Secretary-General of the United Nations.
2. Such denunciation shall take effect for the Contracting State concerned one year from the date upon which it is received by the Secretary-General of the United Nations....”


7 posted on 11/29/2018 1:22:59 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They have been seriously manipulated. Many of them, as Trump said, if they stood in line and went through the normal entry points, would have been accepted.

The radical left and Soros have stirred these people up and actually made them all collectively shoot themselves in the foot. But that doesn’t matter to Soros and the left, because the “people” are just cannon fodder for them. Send these poor dumb idiots out there with their kids - hey, Soros doesn’t care.


8 posted on 11/29/2018 1:42:38 PM PST by livius
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It appears the participants are creating more violence that they supposedly left.


9 posted on 11/29/2018 1:51:48 PM PST by odawg
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To: snarkpup

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtMaEdhVAAAgk8m.jpg

LOL - flat out wonderful!


10 posted on 11/29/2018 1:55:42 PM PST by GOPJ (Watch for our survival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE-dead)
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To: Brian Griffin

It’s time to change the laws before THIS happens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE-dead


11 posted on 11/29/2018 1:57:15 PM PST by GOPJ (Watch for our survival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE-dead)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6fe2ca63ab826e159326e51d1e9d5223ca301085fcb5d4c4cf5b3632feb3cd79.jpg?w=600&h=440


12 posted on 12/01/2018 1:53:38 AM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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