Posted on 12/04/2018 6:21:49 AM PST by artichokegrower
It’s back.
A controversial bill with the potential to add millions of apartments and condominiums near transit — which died in its first committee hearing earlier this year — was resurrected Monday, but with a number of significant changes. Already, some of the changes are raising eyebrows.
(Excerpt) Read more at eastbaytimes.com ...
Soviet block style housing coming to a neighborhood near you.
The smarter people figured out how to escape from California long before this crap started.
Time to eject parts of California from the union.
BobL wrote: “The smarter people figured out how to escape from California long before this crap started.”
Exactly so. In 1982, a senior executive for Hughes Aircraft Company told me that their Long Range Planning Group had recommended that Hughes sell all their California holdings and move to Arizona because California would become a hostile business environment within a few years. Hughes sold out, moved to Tucson, and later merged with Raytheon. Had to be one of the smartest moves I’ve heard of.
Apparently I’ve reached my 30 day limit on articles at the East Bay Times.
Not that I recall ever linking there before.
The entire concept of Liberty escapes these creeps.
It’s as if they’ve never even heard of it.
This isn’t socialism. The cost of housing in California will never decline until housing supply catches up with demand, and this won’t happen until local zoning restrictions on builders are eased. What better place to ease them than around transit stations?
“In 1982, a senior executive for Hughes Aircraft Company told me that their Long Range Planning Group had recommended that Hughes sell all their California holdings and move to Arizona because California would become a hostile business environment within a few years. Hughes sold out, moved to Tucson, and later merged with Raytheon. Had to be one of the smartest moves I’ve heard of.”
I know enough about HAC during the mid 80s to early 90s - I was there every day - to confidently say nothing like that happened.
First, HAC was wholly owned by the Hughes Medical Institute, so it was in no way the master of its own fate. There was a massive court suit that stretched on for years after Howard Hughes’ death, the upshot of which was that in 1985 the Medical Institute decided to sell HAC. During the early 80s HAC was building a lavish headquarters in Westchester on the hill coming down into the Ballona wetlands. Not something you’d do if you were moving to Tucson. It which opened in ‘85 or ‘86, just in time for HAC to be sold to GM. It had not “moved to Tucson” when I left HAC in the early 90s. Never did I ever hear anything along the lines of the company was moving to Tucson. They had Arizona operations in the early-mid 80s that had been around a while, but mainly they were El Segundo-Westchester-Culver City and other locations in the greater LA area.
HAC did not “merge with Raytheon” AFAIK. GM sold HAC off piecemeal. The Space & Communications Group was sold to Boeing. Radar went to Raytheon. I believe Electro-Optical also went to Raytheon. But they would have been sold by GM.
A big driver in what happened to HAC, and the entire aerospace industry, after 1989 was the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union. That wasn’t on anyone’s “radar” in 1982.
This will kill San Francisco/Oakland. Because of the high price of housing and rental fees in Frisco, South Bay, and Oakland, people have been trying to move east for years. I saw it when I was station in Sacramento starting in 1977 until I left in 1995 with stints at Beale and Mather.
If they build moderate complexes starting in Fairfield clear to Auburn, the people stuck with high rent problems in the City area will just bail on their housing commitment and go east. Businesses and housing in the bay area will die. Saw the same thing when Mather closed in Sacramento in 1995. Area around the base became a ghost town, went broke. Same will happen in the bay area.
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IF California would kick out the 5 million PLUS illegals there, the housing shortage would be solved very quickly.
Then, change the landlord laws and investors WILL build more multi-units.
No, it's centralized planning communism. There isn't a 3+ story apartment building anywhere in the USSA that doesn't vote Democrat. Very high density housing is communal living, and it creates communist voters, coming to a swing-voting suburb near you.
Now that the Democrats have a permanent super-majority in California, and the local Republicans have failed to respond by moving sufficiently left to re-gain enough market share to be relevant, the Democrats are starting to split into two camps.
“I know enough about HAC during the mid 80s to early 90s - I was there every day - to confidently say nothing like that happened.”
Really? HAC was a major corporation with many divisions and facilities. Trying to describe HAC is somewhat like the blind men describing an elephant.
Regardless of your experience with HAC, I accurately recounted a conversation with a HAC executive in 1982. Subsequently, most of the HAC business that I was discussed (missile and radars) was moved out of state entirely consistent with the conversation.
Bottom line: the decline of California was predicted by long term planners.
That was impressive regarding Hughes. They must have figured out that Jerry Brown’s mindset was going to become the norm in that state.
I think Flash is trying to say that portions of the company with brain-damaged management didn’t see the Socialist swastikas on the KKKalifornia walls...
BobL wrote: “That was impressive regarding Hughes. They must have figured out that Jerry Brown’s mindset was going to become the norm in that state.”
Essentially correct. HAC, at least the missile and defense electronics group, saw a future of where higher taxes and increased regulation would make California an unattractive place for business. They sold while the selling was good. Best piece of business planning I’ve ever seen.
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