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1 posted on 12/05/2018 4:28:17 PM PST by vannrox
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Hillary and the Obama’s sure took a run at it...


2 posted on 12/05/2018 4:30:29 PM PST by moovova
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0bama, Hillary, Kerry all tried it and .....????


3 posted on 12/05/2018 4:31:19 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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Well it is about to much more difficult and examples are going to made that will last 1000 years or more.


4 posted on 12/05/2018 4:34:44 PM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of today be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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The American Revolution was a massive act of treason against the British government

Not true. The side that was legally in the wrong, that betrayed British constitutional principles, was the King's ministers. They attempted to levy taxes on British subjects without consent.

England couldn't lawfully levy taxes on Scotland without their consent given in parliament, and neither could they lawfully do it to Virginia or Pennsylvania.

5 posted on 12/05/2018 4:38:14 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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“I’m going to plead with you, do not cross us. Because if you do, the survivors will write about what we do here for 10,000 years.”

Gen James “Mad Dog” Mattis when he was forced to retire by Obama with his warning to the Deep State.


6 posted on 12/05/2018 4:39:40 PM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of today be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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Well we have certainly uncovered a slew of them after electing Donald Trump as our President. I suspect none of them will be charged though.


7 posted on 12/05/2018 4:46:48 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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Some Dare Call It Treachery *-?

naaaaa.. just doesn’t have the same ring to it..


8 posted on 12/05/2018 4:51:15 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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Blah, Blah, Blah.

More New Age codswallop.

There is absolutely no moral equivalency between the events and actions related to the American Revolution
and the underhanded traitorous conduct on the part of democrats and other leftists today.

Saying there is does not make it so.


9 posted on 12/05/2018 4:59:25 PM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (Yes Dorothy, Windows 10 sucks even in Kansas!)
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"America was founded by traitors."

A Leftist Lie, by those who deny the Declaration of Independence, and whose loyalties lie outside of the U.S.

"treason must occur in the context of war"

The Constitution lists three acts as treason; only the first one deals with levying war against the U.S. The other two can occur outside of an actual war.

10 posted on 12/05/2018 5:00:04 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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Given that the US has been in a perpetual state of war since 9/11, that requirement is automatically met in all cases.

Given some of the things Clinton, McCain, Obama and friends did... treason in the strictest possible sense can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. All three were involved, for example, in running arms to ISIS in Syria.


11 posted on 12/05/2018 5:03:34 PM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 2)
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We had American born propagandists broadcasting propaganda from Germany on behalf of the Axis.

We had Communist agents in the US handing over nuclear bomb secrets to the Soviet Union.

We had a Red Communist actress posing for propaganda photos on an antiaircraft cannon in North Vietnam during the war.

We had thousands of Communist fueled bombings in the United States in a couple of years time.


12 posted on 12/05/2018 5:05:55 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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“Treason” is almost as overused as “racist” is.


13 posted on 12/05/2018 5:06:17 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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Are they trying to get ahead here of what “Q” is portending ?


14 posted on 12/05/2018 5:17:37 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!)
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When someone mentions traitors, I immediately think of Jeff Flake.


15 posted on 12/05/2018 5:19:20 PM PST by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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Heh.

Just goes to show how much consistent effort our current traitors had to put into it to qualify.


17 posted on 12/05/2018 5:23:41 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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By the King, A Proclamation, For Suppressing Rebellion and Sedition

WHEREAS Many of Our Subjects in divers Parts of Our Colonies and Plantations in North America, misled by dangerous and ill-designing Men, and forgetting the Allegiance which they owe to the Power that has protected and sustained them, after various disorderly Acts committed in Disturbance of the Public Peace, to the Obstruction of lawful Commerce, and to the Oppression of Our loyal Subjects carrying on the same, have at length proceeded to an open and avowed Rebellion, by arraying themselves in hostile Manner to withstand the Execution of the Law, and traitoroursly preparing, ordering, and levying War against Us.

AND whereas there is Reason to apprehend that such Rebellion hath been much promoted and encouraged by the traitorous Correspondence, Counsels, and Comfort of divers wicked and desperate Persons within this Realm: To the End therefore, that none of Our Subjects may neglect or violate their Duty through Ignorance thereof, or through any Doubt of the Protection which the Law will afford to their Loyalty and Zeal; We have thought fit, by and with the Advice of Our Privy Council, to issue this Our Royal Proclamation, hereby declaring that not only all Our Officers, Civil and Military, are obliged to exert their utmost Endeavours to suppress such Rebellion, and to bring the Traitors to Justice; but that all Our Subjects of this Realm and the Dominions thereunto belonging are bound by Law to be aiding and assisting in the Suppression of such Rebellion, and to disclose and make known all traitorous Conspiracies and Attempts against Us, Our Crown and Dignity.

AND We do accordingly strictly Charge and Command all Our Officers, as well Civil as Military, and all other Our obedient and loyal Subjects, to use their utmost Endeavours to withstand and suppress such Rebellion, and to disclose and make known all Treasons and traitorous Conspiracies which they shall know to be against Us, Our Crown and Dignity: and for that Purpose, that they transmit to one of Our Principal Secretaries of State, or other proper Officer, due and full Information of all Persons who shall be found carrying on Correspondence wit, or in any Manner or Degree aiding or abetting, the Persons now in open Arms and Rebellion against Our Government within any of Our Colonies and Plantations in North America, in order to bring to condign Punishment the Authors, Perpetrators, and Abettors of such traitorous Designs.

Given at Our Court at St. James’s, the 23d Day of August, 1775, in the Fifteenth Year of Our Reign.

God Save the King.

https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/_By_the_King_A_Proclamation_For_Suppressing_Rebellion_and_Sedition_1775


19 posted on 12/05/2018 5:27:35 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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True. But they were OUR traitors and they won!


20 posted on 12/05/2018 5:29:19 PM PST by Terry Mross (On some threads it's best to go jst inraight up his this seat. to the comments..)
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This is some piss poor legal scholarship. The Founders couldn’t be traitors because you can’t be a traitor to a tyranny.


21 posted on 12/05/2018 5:31:03 PM PST by Crucial
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Demoncrats are domestic enemies and they’re at war with America and the Constitution. It’s a 2-fer.

We had a marxist, muslim, America-hating, faggot, illegal alien, enemy combatant as a commander in chief for 8 long years. The O’muslim admin(marxists,maoists & muslims) WAS A TREASON REGIME.

In case people have missed it, it’s prospering like an MFer.


23 posted on 12/05/2018 5:32:51 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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I think they picked up the wrong end of the stick. It wasn't because the Founders were traitors to Britain that the Founders defined "treason" so narrowly.

My hunch is that it was because of the many treason prosecutions back in Tudor times. In Henry's and Elizabeth's time "treason" was applied quite loosely and perhaps unfairly. The Founders would have learned about those prosecutions in school and in their reading.

If what I've seen online is true, there were few prosecutions for treason in the Hanoverian era - mostly tied to the two Jacobite uprisings. So maybe the Founders' definition wasn't that different from the evolving British understanding of treason.

25 posted on 12/05/2018 5:40:45 PM PST by x
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