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To: Simon Green

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2IOZ-5Nk5k

GREAT unbiased video about a bump stock installed on an AR-15.

It’s a video demonstration of an AR without bump stock vs an AR with bump stock.

Full speed and slow-mo comparison video.

I will say this. This bump stock turns this AR essentially into an automatic weapon. NO DOUBT!

I’m not arguing the “legal” definition of “automatic” or the 2nd amendment.

IF you believe that “automatic” weapons should be legal, then bump stocks are fine with you.

IF you believe that “automatic” weapons should be illegal, then bump stocks should be illegal.

White/Black. The rest is just noise.

Please don’t comment unless you actually watch the video.


34 posted on 12/08/2018 9:51:40 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

“I will say this. This bump stock turns this AR essentially into an automatic weapon. NO DOUBT!

I’m not arguing the “legal” definition of “automatic” or the 2nd amendment.”

The legal definition of automatic is prcisely the issue here. Rate of fire has nothing to do with the current legal definition of a machine gun. If rate of fire is to be the determinate factor in legally defining machine guns then that must be done by congress, not a regulatory agency like ATF.


41 posted on 12/08/2018 11:15:57 AM PST by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: faucetman

I’m not arguing the “legal” definition of “automatic” or the 2nd amendment.


Well, yes. Yes, you are.

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From a previous post:

Bump-stocks are silly toys that a guy figured out he could use as part of a cobbled-together A-Team solution to do evil in a very specific situation. It’s useful in sending many rounds down-range and cross-range while not hitting your target, when you don’t care if your firearm jams or is rapidly ruined. It works by you losing control of the weapon.

Having an unassailable firing point with many enclosed targets, no place to escape and no concealment - and in this case - almost TWO DOZEN spare longarms, and hundreds to thousands of wasted rounds which won’t be hitting any targets, and hours to days of prep time were all also required for what happened in Vegas.

The main part of banning a bump-stock that is problematic is that it is such a simple thing that it is more a concept than an item, and that definitions suggested to date include many, many, mundane items both firearms related and not - and thus extraordinarily capricious - including sticks, string, rubber-bands, beltloops, fingers in certain positions, and anything which can be substituted for those items.


53 posted on 12/08/2018 1:48:01 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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