[fireman15]

I am sorry, as a member of a gun club which had to ban bump stocks because of members inadvertently sending projectiles into neighboring ranges and putting other members at risk... This is much ado about nothing. Anyone who wants to waste ammunition can figure out other ways to do it.

[bigbob]

Building gun ranges next to mosques...now there’s an idea...

[DesertRhino]

Whether they are useful and a good weapons accessory is a different discussion.

[old-ager]

true enough and your club is welcome to ban them.

the federal situation is exactly as this excellent article describes.

[lepton]

I am sorry, as a member of a gun club which had to ban bump stocks because of members inadvertently sending projectiles into neighboring ranges and putting other members at risk... This is much ado about nothing. Anyone who wants to waste ammunition can figure out other ways to do it.

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That is both why a government bump-stock ban is absurd, and essentially useless, aside from reducing accidents and mechanical abuse of the firearms.

[trebb]

I'm with you - and one of the arguments on the story supports us:

A gun’s usable rate of fire is limited by its recoil. Unlike a truck, bomb, or knife, when a firearm is discharged, it deviates from its course and needs to be re-aimed before it can fire again effectively. A gun that fires 10,000 rounds per minute is no more useful than a regular rifle if the gun is pointing in the air after the first shot. This is why not even our military regularly uses fully automatic “machine gun” fire in standard rifles—they’re just not nearly as deadly or effective as they sound. In reality, there is no gun that is more or less safe when misused against innocent people. The American people think it’s reasonable to ban something like a bump stock because it is “like a machine gun” only because of a fundamentally flawed conception of how firearms actually work.

Pretty much says they are useless as any sort of regular weapon and just throw a lot of ammo out there.....BUT, the second part about no gun being safer/more dangerous is not well thought out....about the only place they are useful against actual targets are places where a lot of targets are penned in a finite area - like what happened in Vegas.

Might as well try to argue that we should all have unfettered access to Claymores.....they do the same thing as a bumpstocked weapon - indiscriminately spray chunks of metal over an area....only they have less range.