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To: rktman

November 27, day after Japanese fleet left for Pearl Harbor, message went out from War Department

Operative phrases = “Consider This message a war warning.
Execute appropriate defensive measures”

Kimmel and Short did neither …….


10 posted on 12/08/2018 2:44:12 PM PST by njslim
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To: njslim

There is a lot more to that story. Kimmel and Short are not totally to blame.


25 posted on 12/08/2018 3:18:25 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: njslim

Kimmel and Short did react to the war warning; they moved ships and aircraft away from possible sabotage raids from the periphery on the ground. Given the size of the Japanese community on Oahu this was as prudent a move as they could make, and yes there were spies among them loyal to Tokyo.

A radar warning of approaching aircraft was given low priority & failed to be delivered in time. Again, not their fault.

Were PBY Catalinas available to conduct air patrols of the surrounding sea & sky? I don’t know.

IMO, Gordon Prange’s book tells the most complete story of the intelligence snafus at Pearl; and due to the usual cause: turf wars.


44 posted on 12/08/2018 3:59:32 PM PST by elcid1970 (My gun safe is saying, "Room for one more, honey!")
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To: njslim

Wrong. The week before 12/7 Kimmel had the fleet at sea and was in position to meet the Japanese fleet. He was ordered back to Pearl Harbor.

He and Short were denied everything that could have allowed them to get ready particularly information.


83 posted on 12/09/2018 4:11:36 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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