Posted on 12/09/2018 1:24:25 PM PST by NYer
Name one of that huge and growing fossil record. Should be pretty easy w/o all your deflection. Name one transitory fossil.
Every one, without exception, is “transitional”.
Oldest trick in the Darwinist book. Every fossil found is still a species today unless it is extinct. Once again you are changing the definition of evolution to adaptation.
You atheists are all the same. Show one species that turned into another similar to a mule that is half donkey and half horse but cannot reproduce.
According to your new theory scientists should have no problem making a new species. Hitler tried and found out it cannot be done.
Those are the retarded ones, who couldn't make the cut. Except for Mickey Dolenz; He's an actual Monkee.
Even worse...
The REALLY retarded monkeys devolved and became Democrats.
Every fossil, without exception is "transitory", so you can name any you wish.
For a listing of some better known sequences check out my link in post #98.
What are you talking about?
I've changed nothing, merely pointed out the obvious.
Every individual, without exception, stands between (="transitions") its ancestors and descendants, if any.
Words like "evolution", "adaption" & "micro-macro-evolution" are all synonyms, defining the same processes whether short-term or long-term.
bray: "You atheists are all the same."
You braying jack***es are all the same.
bray: "Show one species that turned into another similar to a mule that is half donkey and half horse but cannot reproduce."
Every breed, sub-species, species, genus, etc., without exception, evolved/adapted from previous breeds, sub-species, species, genera, etc.
For examples, consider the man-directed evolution of dogs from wolves and cows from aurochs.
bray: "According to your new theory scientists should have no problem making a new species.
Hitler tried and found out it cannot be done."
Nothing "new" about "my theory".
So again, words like "breed", "sub-species", "species", "genus", etc., are all matters of scientific definition.
Today dogs are classified a sub-species of wolves and cows a separate species from ancient aurochs.
Domestic horses are a sub-species of wild horses, domestic pigs are separate species from their wild pig ancestors.
In the wild Indian & African elephants are separate genera while zebras are classified into two sub-genera, three species and nine sub-species.
No, that is the oldest trick in the book. You do not have proof so you dismiss it with everything is changing when it is not. Same trick they use for Global Warming, we don’t have proof so everything is proof.
You cannot prove it so enjoy your dying theory. Done with you.
Any "tricking" here is yours.
bray: "You do not have proof so you dismiss it with everything is changing when it is not."
Nothing in science is formally "proved", meaning that term "proved" isn't normally used.
So you might even claim that all of science is "fake" since none of it is "proved".
The term science uses is "confirmed" and that applies to observations -- a confirmed observation is called a "fact".
And it applies to explanations, where a confirmed hypothesis is called a "theory".
Confirmations can be weak or strong and when strong confirmations are multiplied innumerable times (as with evolution theory) then theories can be accepted almost as if observed fact.
One example of a hypothesis being confirmed into theory and then observed as fact is the Earth's globe shape.
First hypothesized by ancient Greeks the globe shape was confirmed as theory by Age of Exploration circumnavigations and then observed as fact by orbiting satellites.
bray: "Same trick they use for Global Warming, we don’t have proof so everything is proof."
Anthropogenic Global Warming -- meaning man-caused -- is an unconfirmed hypothesis, regardless of what politicians or politically motivated scientists tell us.
What's been claimed to be "confirmations" are at best weak and not convincing in terms of man-made cause & effect.
bray: "You cannot prove it so enjoy your dying theory. Done with you."
Nothing in science, by definition, is ever "proved" but every critical element of evolution theory has been observed and that's as close to "proof" as we'll ever get.
Name one piece of evidence animals have evolved to another animal.
I will admit you have far more faith than I do with your papering over holes you can fly a 747 through. No fossil record, no problem just believe.
There is evidence all around us, and I've listed examples:
But, of course that might not be enough evidence for you, bray.
bray: "I will admit you have far more faith than I do with your papering over holes you can fly a 747 through.
No fossil record, no problem just believe."
But there are literal mountains of fossil evidence, why would you claim otherwise?
As for alleged "faith" formal science doesn't use it, or "belief" or doctrine, dogma, canons, creeds, codes, etc., none of that stuff.
Strictly speaking, science is all about just two things: observations and explanations.
Falsifiable explanations are called hypotheses which make predictions that when confirmed promote the hypothesis to theory.
Every theory is only accepted tentatively, pending future falsification or better explanations.
So there's no "faith" or "belief", theories are simply accepted or rejected based on confirmed predictions.
For the past 150+ years evolution theory has been confirmed daily by thousands of workers around the globe and never seriously falsified.
So as theories go, evolution is in pretty good shape.
Once again confusing adaptation with evolving. Wild pig becomes domestic pig is evolution? So did an amoeba become a fish that way?
If you want to lie to yourself that fake science is real that is your business but you still cannot name one transitory fossil because it does not exist.
Good shape? Do some research and you will find more and more scientists are moving away from it. Microbiology is proving random chance is impossible.
BTW where did life come from?
So if you domesticate a wild horse is it a new species by your definition?
In scientific terms there's no difference whatever, they are precisely the same processes only the time scales may change -- short term vs. long term.
bray: "Wild pig becomes domestic pig is evolution?"
Sure, relatively short term, aka "micro-evolution".
bray: "So did an amoeba become a fish that way?"
No amoeba ever magically turned into a fish.
The first multi-celled animals appeared in the Cambrian "explosion" circa 550 million years ago.
Depending on how you define the word "fish" they first appear in the fossil record around 400 million years ago.
bray: "If you want to lie to yourself that fake science is real that is your business but you still cannot name one transitory fossil because it does not exist."
Every fossil without exception is "transitory" and you are free to lie to yourself all you wish, but facts are still facts.
bray: "Good shape?
Do some research and you will find more and more scientists are moving away from it.
Microbiology is proving random chance is impossible."
Well... evolution theory today is a far cry from Darwin's day.
Darwin wrote a book or two on the subject, remarkably accurate considering he never understood the basic mechanisms.
So today details of evolution research would fill libraries and all of its basic features have been observed, meaning they are scientific facts.
Of course there are still controversies & scientific debates, but thousands of people work daily with the premises & details of evolution theory and none have ever falsified it.
As for "random chance" that's a matter of definitions -- what is truly "random"?
It appears to me that God's Universe is biased (or "rigged") towards life.
bray: "BTW where did life come from?"
Nobody knows for sure, there are no confirmed theories, just a number of ideas proposed.
Some researchers think abiogenesis is not impossible, others say no, there must have been a form of panspermia.
There are many books on the subject, here's one I've read:
The Vital Question: Energy, Evolution, and the Origins of Complex Life 
I also recommend two other books, the first written by a scientist:
Evolution vs. Creationism: An Introduction 2nd Edition, Kindle Edition by Eugenie C. Scott
The second is written by a Christian:
Deliver Us From Evolution?: A Christian Biologist's In-Depth Look at the Evidence Reveals a Surprising Harmony Between Science and God by Aaron R Yilmaz:
Today's domestic horses are classified as a sub-species of ancient wild horses.
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