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To: Sa-teef
"It's going to take a constitutional amendment to truly protect the unborn."

It's certainly the surest avenue that should be relentlessly pursued. Did Lincoln 'defund' slavery, or did Lincoln render slavery utterly unconstitutional for all time with the 13th Amendment?

212 posted on 12/11/2018 4:24:46 AM PST by StAnDeliver ("Mueller personally delivered US uranium to Russia.")
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To: StAnDeliver
(Referring to a Constitutional Amendment...)

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'It's certainly the surest avenue that should be relentlessly pursued. Did Lincoln 'defund' slavery, or did Lincoln render slavery utterly unconstitutional for all time with the 13th Amendment?

Well said.

"....The Emancipation Proclamation, or Proclamation 95, was a presidential proclamation and executive order issued by United States President Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863. It changed the federal legal status of more than 3.5 million enslaved African Americans in the designated areas of the South from slave to free. As soon as a slave escaped the control of the Confederate government, by running away or through advances of federal troops, the former slave became free.........The Proclamation ordered the freedom of all slaves in ten states.[3] Because it was issued under the president's authority to suppress rebellion (war powers), it necessarily excluded areas not in rebellion, but still applied to more than 3.5 million of the 4 million slaves. The Proclamation was based on the president's constitutional authority as commander in chief of the armed forces..."

It was never challenged in court and to be honest, the "taking" of property might have made for an argument, as loathsome as it might sound.

'...The Emancipation Proclamation broadened the goals of the Civil War. While slavery had been a major issue that led to the war, Lincoln's only mission at the start of the war was to maintain the Union. The Proclamation made freeing the slaves an explicit goal of the Union war effort. Establishing the abolition of slavery as one of the two primary war goals served to deter intervention by Britain and France..........Lincoln pushed for passage of the Thirteenth Amendment, and insisted that Reconstruction plans for Southern states require abolition in new state constitutions. Congress passed the 13th Amendment by the necessary two-thirds vote on January 31, 1865, and it was ratified by the states on December 6, 1865, ending legal slavery."

And there was another 100 years of segregation and Jim Crow laws perpetrated by the southern Democrats which resulted in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voters Rights Act of 1965. And it still took nearly endless litigation to enforce the law. The racist southern Democrats were no friends of minorities, but children of today are never taught about those days. I am old enough to remember reading in school textbooks in the 1950's about the "Solid South" and that was a solid Democratic south, enforced by Democratic segregationists.

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It will take a constitutional amendment to ensure the life and liberty of the unborn in America. No de-funding on the state or federal level will ever stop the murder of those lives.

221 posted on 12/12/2018 12:45:00 AM PST by Sa-teef
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