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86 exposed to measles at event as N.J. outbreak continues
NJ Advanced Media ^ | December 10, 2018

Posted on 12/10/2018 6:18:21 PM PST by SMGFan

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Some vaccines have cause d more serious problems than that which they are intended to stop would have....some don't work on a percentage of the population....if all vaccines were 100% effective, then the folks who are pissed that not everyone wants to be guinea pigs would have no worries about being exposed to those who aren't vaccinated.

I guess the meme that some must be sacrificed for the greater good is strong among those who want everyone to get every vaccination out there....

41 posted on 12/11/2018 3:19:56 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: ifinnegan

if illegals are stopped and quarantined and required to get their shots to travel, problem solved.

You can leave your car unlocked if it is safe within your garage.


42 posted on 12/11/2018 4:11:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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To: SMGFan; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Infectious Disease ping - Measles, NY & NJ , (Ocean County confirmed)

"The Ocean County health department didn’t mention where or when the event took place,
but said Friday 86 people might have been infected.
There were already 18 confirmed and six suspected cases of measles in Ocean County.

Measles is highly contagious as you are exposed, and can contaminate others, even before you exhibit illness symptoms.

43 posted on 12/11/2018 5:56:03 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: KittenClaws

http://nj1015.com/those-86-locals-exposed-to-measles-thats-not-the-whole-story/

Might explain a bit more, but not much.


44 posted on 12/11/2018 6:01:13 AM PST by mewzilla (Is Central America emptying its prisons?)
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To: KittenClaws

Speaking of patients zero, check out the bit on outbreaks, the info on previous years....

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html


45 posted on 12/11/2018 6:04:11 AM PST by mewzilla (Is Central America emptying its prisons?)
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To: mewzilla

Someone needs to develop a vaccine that raises the IQ of parents who don’t take care of their kids.

Shouldn’t take too much effort to double their IQ up to 100.


46 posted on 12/11/2018 6:39:48 AM PST by oldasrocks (rump)
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To: Nifster; Yaelle

My allergist/immunologist told me the exact same thing.

They do not take with everyone and for many people they offer only partial immunity.

And what field is your MD in?


47 posted on 12/11/2018 6:40:33 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Yaelle

Injecting vitamin c in large doses? Apparently you want endocarditis to make your kidney stones more interesting. Wow


48 posted on 12/11/2018 6:42:35 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Nifster

You are purposefully snarky.....as most anti valets are


While it is true that I am strongly anti-valet, and far prefer finding a nice parking place on the street, I don’t feel that is relevant to this argument. Let’s not get ad hominem.

And if you are exposed to the measles, your doc might be able to hit your immune system with something, but chances are, he or she will NOT suggest the proven way of vitamins to avoid or get a lesser case of the measles, which one should do even if he has something else to use. Oral vitamin c, maybe start with 500 mg 2-3x a day and see how your bowels go. Dose should be just short of diarrhea if you are going oral. Easier, though, to go to an integrative MD and get an infusion with more vitamin c, which is actually MORE TOLERABLE to get a higher dose in, than oral.

Vitamin A should not be supplemented pretty much ever, with some rare exceptions - measles is one. Use a doctor’s recommendation for the dose, but if he says it’s not necessary, he would be avoiding a proven way to make sure your case is not one with the worst outcomes.

I am not a doctor, but I would like to play one on tv. Maybe in a telenovella.


49 posted on 12/11/2018 9:28:01 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Mom MD

See the post I just wrote.


50 posted on 12/11/2018 9:29:23 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: oldasrocks

Antivaxxers would be less of a menace if we’d stop importing infectious people and diseases.


51 posted on 12/11/2018 9:31:42 AM PST by mewzilla (Is Central America emptying its prisons?)
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To: Yaelle

At least you are not advocating self injecting. That is a recipe for disaster


52 posted on 12/11/2018 9:36:47 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: metmom

I did not give anyone medical advice

It is true that vaccines are not 100%. I never said they were

Advising people to inject themselves with anything is not only fool hardy it is giving medical advice


53 posted on 12/11/2018 10:05:45 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Yaelle

You are giving medical advice

Stop it. Even if you had an MD no one here is your patient


54 posted on 12/11/2018 10:07:18 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster
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55 posted on 12/11/2018 12:04:59 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SMGFan

This is kind of a big deal.

We don’t really know how many older adults who were vaccinated are now susceptible to measles. We don’t even REALLY know that natural infection in childhood confers lifelong immunity (although it probably does).

In the prevaccine era, parents of young children who had had measles as children themselves were constantly re-exposed (boosted) as their own children and eventually grandchildren got measles. This DEFINITELY prevented clinical measles in adults.

Now, since children don’t get measles any more, their parents never get re-exposed, so after a booster at age 11-12, most people’s immunity starts to wane.

I caught measles when I was 28 and was out of work for three months. There is significant mortality in adults who get measles.

Hopefully the NJ event is limited in scope.


56 posted on 12/29/2018 5:25:31 AM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: SMGFan

This is kind of a big deal.

We don’t really know how many older adults who were vaccinated are now susceptible to measles. We don’t even REALLY know that natural infection in childhood confers lifelong immunity (although it probably does).

In the prevaccine era, parents of young children who had had measles as children themselves were constantly re-exposed (boosted) as their own children and eventually grandchildren got measles. This DEFINITELY prevented clinical measles in adults.

Now, since children don’t get measles any more, their parents never get re-exposed, so after a booster at age 11-12, most people’s immunity starts to wane.

I caught measles when I was 28 and was out of work for three months. There is significant mortality in adults who get measles.

Hopefully the NJ event is limited in scope.


57 posted on 12/29/2018 5:25:37 AM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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