Posted on 12/13/2018 10:25:51 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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you do realize that there is a difference between the EU and the smaller Eurozone
leaving the Euro currency -- you are right that there is no regulation or procedure for doing so, however the repercussions economically for leaving are huge -- imagine if Scotland left the pound to create its own currency or if North Carolina did that to the dollar
Greece should never have joined the Euro - which is really only a Franco-German-Benelux entity
the EU is a big trading zone
To say that May is ‘pushing for’ the deal gives the impression that something like this lousy deal was what she wanted all along, which many seem to believe. It isn’t. It’s all she’s left with after a negotiation in which the other side held all the cards. It’s fantasy to suppose, as many do, that a.b.c or Uncle Tom Cobbley would have done any better. If you go into a negotiation where you’re asking for a lot but have nothing to offer in return, you aren’t going to come away with much. (It will be a different matter with the trade negotiations, but those haven’t even started yet).
The widespread view that May is some kind of stooge or puppet of dark forces working against Brexit is completely at odds with her character and background, and her record as the longest-serving Home Secretary of modern times. She’s the typical grammar school-educated daughter of a Middle England Anglican clergyman. Takes on any job she finds herself lumbered with and sticks with it stoically. Limited abilities, no imagination, but unimpeachable integrity (at least by politicians’ standards.)
(Which is not to say I like her or her politics. I don’t.)
She declared herself a lame duck before her latest episode of groveling.
Small wonder they’re toying with her now.
she is no Thatcher - decisive
She basically wants to stay in power, not deliver a no-deal Brexit
I don't believe her to be a stooge, but rather a waffler trying to muddle her way true -- as you said "limited abilities, no imagination, but unimpeachable integrity"
The other factor which tends to be ignored by external commentators is that she was hamstrung by her party divisions before she even went into negotiation - the initial UK position was a fudged compromise from the start, because it was the only position which could be got through a deeply divided cabinet and party, let alone Parliament and the country. What she’s been trying to do is simultaneously to square at least three concentric circles. What I suspect, but don’t know, is that she always realised the impossibility of this but saw it as her duty to plug on anyway.
We’re not the ones leaving the EU...
They should just leave then.
Thats what I say. UK should go its merry way and develop unilateral relationships who countries that benefit both. I believe it will eventually be both, including Germany.
You’re correct. I was responding to another article about the EU and Trump’s comments. See you in another thread! Hehe.
May there be war?
IOW,for its leaders (and others most likely) the EU is a gravy train....kinda like "public service" in this country.
So survival is Priority #1 for these bottom feeders...and the British people are just collateral damage.
You can check in, but you can’t check out.
When you open the door they infest and inflict the cancer that will later kill
The next time the US (Trump) sends troops to Europe from England to France’s shores, it will be to fight the despotic German EU aligned on the Continent against the British Isles. We could send some Special Forces out as advisors to the Yellow Vests:)
If the EU could have just stayed a customs union, a giant free trading zone this would have stayed a great idea. It would have preserved the original intent of the ideas coming out of WWII from which it was founded. That is that countries who are economically tied close together are less likely to go to war with one another.
Now, you have the Euro. I know that not all EU countries are on the Euro but just about all. For a nation state not to be able to control it’s own fiscal policy is idiotic. Over the last 25 years the EU has gone from a common market/free trade zone to an extra government putting mandates/laws on it’s member countries by un elected bureaucrats.
The idea of banning together in a customs union, pooling your economic resources and then going out and getting the best trade deals is a great idea. The EU has gone way beyond it’s original mandate. It’s people are in revolt and I’m not sure where it will be long term. The UK best get out now while the getting is good. No matter how painful it is.
THe EU states all but one, Germany, have their royal families living off the backs of the socialist serfs in their countries; these royals need to all be cut off and treated as any other citizen(s) eventually returning them from their Elite life styles into the Socialism they foisted upon the masses under the guise of losing faith "because of the world wars".
Please tell us about this royal family in France.
Cue - Hang on Loosely but Don’t Let Go...
Axtually, don’t.
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