The insufferable and FIRED former FBI Director James Comey
Posted on 12/18/2018 11:35:27 AM PST by Liberty7732
That's laughable.
A treason charge requires the defendant to be acting on behalf of an enemy of the U.S. There's actually a legal definition of enemy, and it hasn't applied in U.S. law since World War II because that's the last time the U.S. declared war on any other nation.
As I've mentioned elsewhere today, even the Rosenbergs -- who were executed for selling the U.S. atomic bomb secrets to the Soviet Union -- were not charged with treason.
I assume Flynn lied because he admits it in this pleading. My point was that it seems impossible to convict him of this if the only evidence of it is the wiretapped communications with Kislyak which presumably cannot be admitted as evidence in a U.S. criminal court.
Like it or not, fair or not, Flynn probably has the best deal he’s going to get in hand, right now. That’s my opinion.
I think you're right. It certainly explains the decisions he has made during the course of this case.
When a judge starts screaming about treason, in court, in front of the media, you can bet that is next on the table if Flynn doesn’t roll over.
Laws only matter to those who don’t rule on them. You analysis is correct, but we are past the point that really matters anymore.
A judge can do dang near anything, and if they decide that it meets the “treason” standard, then it is treason. You can appeal, but if you haven’t noticed old Kavenaugh is looking pretty blue right now and will probably just play ball.
Your post is entirely speculative. We’ll see what happens over the next three months.
His phone wasn’t working in D.R. at the time. Therefore, your premis is in error.
It seems that lying to the FBI shouldn’t be a crime since they lie, cheat, manipulate, falsify, and fail to verify evidence in order to achieve the end they seek.
Then what does THIS mean?
"I cannot recall any incident in which the court accepted a guilty plea in which he was not guilty, and I don't intend to start today." -- Judge Sullivan
Really, Comey openly boasts that he violated standard DOJ and FBI protocols, and took advantage of a brand new administration in its very first few days ... and contrary to Comey’s b.s. about previous admins., any WH in its first week in office might have been caught up in something similar in the past, IF the FBI had been so unscrupulous as to attempt to bring down a top new official in the past in the same way.
Read the details of Flynn’s January 24th interview. I’m pretty sure he explains that he couldn’t initially receive Kislyak’s call due to poor cell service, but he got a phone message from Kislyak and arranged to call him back several hours later.
The lobbying for a foreign govt is because he working for Turkey including being paid for a newspaper column he authored supporting Turkey that printed the day of trumps inauguration. If you don’t register as a lobbyist you violate the law.
Flynn’s discussion with the Russia ambassador was totally ok.
Shame on you for not crediting the author of:
“And how we burned in the camps >> << “If...If!”
“We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
“The best nonfiction book of the Twentieth Century” (Time)
ALEKSANDR SOLZHENITSYN’S “The Gulag Archipelago” Vols 1,2,3
I heartily urge all to read the books.
The real problem is Flynn being paid by turkey and not disclosing it —even after trump named him the incoming Natl Security advisor. THAT is what mueller is threatening to charge him with if he doesn’t like the Lying to the FBI charge. And that charge is why Flynn would rather go down on the lying charge than be guilty of being an agent for a foreign govt.
“I assume Flynn lied because he admits it in this pleading. My point was that it seems impossible to convict him...”
If he admitted he lied, that is 98.2% of a conviction, on the spot, and that 1.8% will cost him several hundred thousand dollars to reverse. That’s just the way it is.
Most states have laws that make obstructing, delaying or providing false information to a peace officer a crime albeit a relatively minor offense.
Yes, but those are deals, and usually different severities for the same act (like manslaughter instead of third degree murder). It's different when one agrees to the deal, and then the prosecutor goes after the more serious charge anyway.
If the judge dismisses the case against Flynn, wouldn't that dismiss the other charge he dealt down, too, as double-jeopardy? Or is this a case of two unrelated charges, one worse than the other, and Flynn plead to the lesser charge in exchange for dropping the serious charge; but now Mueller wants to bring back the serious charge to retaliate against having the lesser charge challenged over Mueller's tactics?
It all smells like prosecutorial misconduct to me.
-PJ
-PJ
The job of the FBI is to investigate crimes that have occurred, not create elaborate ruses that result in new process crimes.
Perhaps, but I don't think you can deny that it's a routine practice.
Particularly when law enforcement is looking for leverage against a suspect.
Two of Flynn's associates were indicted for unregistered lobbying for Turkey and other crimes. Flynn undoubtedly provided a lot of information that let the prosecutors build their case.
Do you think he would have done that without the leverage the DOJ got when he lied to the FBI?
The insufferable and FIRED former FBI Director James Comey
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