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Trump claims Mexico will pay for his border wall because of the new trade deal...
CNBC ^ | December 18, 2018 | Stephanie Dhue

Posted on 12/19/2018 6:13:59 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK- so go to the Fed Reserve and take out a $5B bridge loan...build the wall now...done.


21 posted on 12/19/2018 6:44:43 AM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: gibsonguy

We sent Trump to the beltway to be a fighter. Not a GOPe doormat. Hillary won’t be on the ballot in 2020. Dems will put some fresh faces on the ticket and Trump will be lucky to get 100 EVs if he preemptively surrenders on the wall.

It seems the GOPe dug in their heels on the preemptive surrender here because the Dems will take over the House. Then they can get back to blame Pelosi nonsense.

This is Trump’s last chance and he is punting into a Democrat controlled Congress. Totally disgusted with him and the GOPe.


22 posted on 12/19/2018 6:45:04 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Nascar Dad

And it’s National Security. The Military is building the wall.


You are dreaming. Military is already being withdrawn from the border. That, apparently, was election season theater and nothing more.


23 posted on 12/19/2018 6:46:08 AM PST by lodi90
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To: bert

“I challange this fallacious thinking because Mexico is not paying for the wall. The NAFTA cessation will result in cash flow to companies and individuals”

Money going to American companies and individuals is better for the country that if it went to the government.

But money still needs to be allocated for the wall. I read that Congress can earmark Military money so it specifically can’t be used for the wall.


24 posted on 12/19/2018 6:52:10 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: cymbeline

Think Trump is out by 2020, whether he chooses not run or is beaten so he doesn’t care if the wall is built or not.


25 posted on 12/19/2018 7:09:13 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: Cubs Fan

I think Trump should have addressed the nation. Go on National TV @ 8pm regarding national security. Tell the people about the amount of drugs, criminals that come across our southern border. State the percentage of illegal aliens in our state and federal prisons. How much not having a wall is costing our country annually. SPELL IT OUT directly to the people. Ask the people to call their congressman and demand a vote.


26 posted on 12/19/2018 7:11:05 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sometimes...good intentions don’t work!
Regroup, although alone! and improvise!


27 posted on 12/19/2018 7:11:34 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: dpetty121263

I think some people just don’t understand Trump. He is a doer and builder and doesn’t give up ever. He is the ONLY one that is on our side. You have given up already?


28 posted on 12/19/2018 7:16:21 AM PST by VastRWCon (Fake News)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Personally I believe Trump is just going to take money from the DOD and use the corps of engineers to build the wall. OK by me.


29 posted on 12/19/2018 7:20:11 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: VastRWCon

Well he made a comment a week or two ago that he would not be around when the national debt would have to be addressed...Well that time will be very, very soon some reasoning is he has seen how bad things really are and decided maybe it’s time me to cut and run...


30 posted on 12/19/2018 7:22:25 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: dpetty121263

he’s not a quitter


31 posted on 12/19/2018 7:24:01 AM PST by VastRWCon (Fake News)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Agree. He’s the only one not beholden to donors. It’s a shame he’s shackled by congress , all D’s And many Rinos who could give a Rats A about us and only are interested in their own welfare


32 posted on 12/19/2018 7:24:02 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “new NAFTA” is a globalist, big social-apologist travesty at this point.

Add in the billions in giveaways and it is no surprise that Mexico gave Kushner a big prize for it!


33 posted on 12/19/2018 7:32:54 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: VastRWCon

Might not be a quitter but smart enough to realize a list cause.


34 posted on 12/19/2018 7:36:05 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh please. The wall will pay for itself. Calculate the amount we shell out every year to illegals in public assistance.

You don’t even have to factor in what their felonies cost us in law enforcement, court, public defender, jail, and prison expenses.

Hopefully, the President will end run around the congressional criminals and just do it via our military. The cynical part of me suspects this may be timed closer to 2020.


35 posted on 12/19/2018 7:43:24 AM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: VastRWCon

I am totally with you. People who should know better keep wilting every time something doesn’t go the way they think it should.

My faith in President Trump remains unbowed. He’s a very different kind of president, and it takes some thinking to keep up with him.

At times, he makes you think he’s low in impulse control. Then, he shrewdly sets his enemies up and knocks them down like bowling pins.

This is the most amusing presidency ever, if you can learn to roll with it.


36 posted on 12/19/2018 7:49:57 AM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Peach 45!"
37 posted on 12/19/2018 8:21:20 AM PST by Gritty (How much blood is Swallwell prepared to shed for his goal of disarming Normal Americans?-K Schlicter)
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To: Nascar Dad
"the wall"? WHAT WALL; THERE IS NO "WALL". Last month alone FIFTY ONE T H O U S A N D ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINALS CROSSED THE BORDER, FIFTY ONE THOUSAND! And they just gave legal amnesty status to that illegal alien single mom and her brood of FIVE FATHERLESS CHILDREN! She and her brood are going to be on the dole and on welfare for the rest of their lives and will cost YOU AND ME, the American taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Frankly, I've had it with the politicians LIES, INCLUDING PRESIDENT TRUMP:

THERE IS NO "WALL", THERE IS NOTHE GOING TO BE ANY REAL, SUBSTANTIAL, "FULL FUNDING" FOR "THE WALL", THERE IS NEVER GOING TO BE "A WALL", AND ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ESCALATE THEIR UNFETTERED INVASION OF THE COUNTRY UNTIL THE UNITED STATES IS DESTROYED AND FISCALLY COLLAPSES IN BANKRUPTCY FROM WITHIN.

There is absolutely no HARD EVIDENCE that President Trump has any intention of ever actually FULLY FUNDING AND BUILDING A REAL "WALL", to secure our ENTIRE Southern Border. On top of that, President Trump has done nothing to financially punish Mexico for its ongoing state sponsored promotion of and aid in perpetuating this invasion of illegal alien criminals. Threats, tweets and talk is not action.

All he has done is send in a woefully inadequate number of troops who literally can't DO ANYTHING to ACTUALLY GUARD and PHYSICALLY PROTECT AND ENFORCE OUR BORDER, put up a little barbed wire and replaced some fencing, that's it! THERE IS NO PROMISED "WALL".

A "fence", is not "A WALL"; BUILD THE BLASTED WALL YOU PROMISED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, OR YOU ARE THROUGH Mr. President.

Either TAKE A STAND AND KEEP YOUR WORD, OR EXPECT TO LOSE IN 2020 BECAUSE YOUR PROMISE WILL HAVE BEEN PROVEN A L I E, Just like Georgie Bush's worthless pledge of "no new taxes".

38 posted on 12/19/2018 8:21:37 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: cymbeline

You are trying to rationalize the Trump claim that the new trade agreement pays for the wall. It does not.

The money flow is not soverign to soverign. The money flow is between private companies and citizens on both sides of the border.

What’s much worse is the announcement that $10.2 billion will flow southward. That money flow must stop. Thet money should be used for the wall. It certainly must not folw to the south


39 posted on 12/19/2018 8:22:49 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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To: bert

“That money should be used for the wall. It certainly must not flow to the south”

I agree with that. If we don’t get at least 5 billion flow into US then Trump’s spouting baloney.


40 posted on 12/19/2018 8:34:47 AM PST by cymbeline
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