The materialist theories that people like Krauss support are just as fraught with difficulties as the theistic theories.
Yes, Krauss has created a sort of religion because he has faith without proof that the universe consists only of matter and energy.
This notion that people have that science and religion can somehow be separated into their respective areas of expertise is bogus. Scientific atheists certainly don't buy it. They are trying to develop a Theory of Everything, not a Theory of Everything Material. And religious folks realize that the pursuit of science depends entirely on ethical decisions that can only be justified by philosophical claims that tend to lead toward a belief in the supernatural.
Sorry, I was never good at code-breaking.
who_would_fardels_bear: "My claim is that all attempts to explain how we are here have issues which we puny humans have not yet fully worked out."
Right, note my posts #22 & #23 above.
who_would_fardels_bear: "This notion that people have that science and religion can somehow be separated into their respective areas of expertise is bogus.
Scientific atheists certainly don't buy it. "
Atheists simply deny there is a supernatural realm.
My opinion is that overlooks a huge portion of what we call the "natural realm".
who_would_fardels_bear: "They are trying to develop a Theory of Everything, not a Theory of Everything Material. "
Of course, if you are an atheist those are the same thing.
who_would_fardels_bear: "And religious folks realize that the pursuit of science depends entirely on ethical decisions that can only be justified by philosophical claims that tend to lead toward a belief in the supernatural."
Agreed, but I'd grow further and admit there's a lot more of the supernatural in what we often think of as "natural realm".