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To: SleeperCatcher

I would like to know we aren’t abandoning the Kurds there, but help can be delivered to them below the table. And if we were going to overthrow anyone, how about Erdogan?


11 posted on 12/22/2018 9:12:29 AM PST by marron
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The Saudi’s have already committed extra troups to support the kurds.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/12/21/checkmate-saudi-crown-prince-mbs-sends-replacement-troops-to-defend-kurds-in-syria/


33 posted on 12/22/2018 9:31:48 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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CHECKMATE – Saudi Crown Prince MbS Sends Replacement Troops To Defend Kurds in Syria…
36 posted on 12/22/2018 9:32:26 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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That’s right. If there is one thing our intel people have been good at it is funneling arms and financial support to insurgents. A skill honed in the Cold War. Hopefully the mediocrities in charge today still have some insitutional memory about how to do it.
56 posted on 12/22/2018 9:57:20 AM PST by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: marron

“I would like to know we aren’t abandoning the Kurds there, but help can be delivered to them below the table. And if we were going to overthrow anyone, how about Erdogan?”

The Kurds hey? The Kurds have a long history of attacking and killing Assyrian Christian communities. Ok things have changed these last many years and the Kurds have even acknowledged their poor history against Assyrian Christians. But the fact of the matter in Syria the Christians are largely behind Assad’s regime which is fine. He has actually protected many of these minority groups against various Jihads whether from Isis, Kurds or others. But make no mistake about it the Christians and Kurds do not necessarily agree on Assad which has resulted in skirmishes with the YPG. This has also to do with a desire for Christian communities to have independence from a monopoly of YPG power over their communities.

So while the Kurds and Christians have been fighting side by side against ISIS, that issue is largely over given the President’s position on withdrawal and not seeking a regime change. Therefore the question becomes who fills the power vacuums - and that is where the Christians get the short end of the stick. But to keep US troops in Syria based on these regional conflicts is nonsense except to the extent of providing covert help to Christian commmunities to stop from being wiped out by whatever version of Islam is exercising presumed authority.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/tensions-soar-between-syrian-kurds-and-christians-1646831127


60 posted on 12/22/2018 10:05:03 AM PST by Lent
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To: marron

We shouldn’t be fighting the wars for the Kurds but we can give them weapons and financial support.


76 posted on 12/22/2018 10:50:38 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: marron

“I would like to know we aren’t abandoning the Kurds there”

That is a huge concern of mine as well. The Kurds can and will fight to maintain their security, if they have weapons up to the task. If the Saudis can provide anti-tank, counter artillery and air defense capabilities to them, Turkey could be deterred from invading.

Manbij might be the test case.

My other big concern is reining in Iran. Hopefully there is a decisive strategy there for regime change, rather than a decades-long, draining, half-stepping approach.


87 posted on 12/22/2018 12:13:04 PM PST by BeauBo
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First, Erdogan has to be lulled into a sense of certainty in regards to his arrogance. He will do fanciful things to assure he is on the way to restoration of the Great World Caliphate based in Ankara, then something called hubris, or karma, or similar, will extend its leveling blade, reaping the whirlwind.

But Erdogan has to succeed in putting himself into an untenable place, paint himself into a corner, and he will, from where it shall be much easier to neutralize and remove him from the equation.

Much like Morsi of Egypt. It wax the young Turks, the colonels and the rallied masses, that eventually overthrew the Ottoman Empire.


97 posted on 12/22/2018 3:38:34 PM PST by alloysteel (Man does not live by bread alone. He needs chocolate cake too.)
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I read last night at Conservative Treehouse that the Saudis are taking our place to side with the Kurds against Iran and Turkey. Now we don’t have to fight our supposed ally Turkey.


105 posted on 12/22/2018 5:12:47 PM PST by tinamina
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