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Over one million gun owners have refused to obey ban in New Jersey, no one giving up magazines
Signs of the Times ^ | December 24, 2018 | Matt Agorist

Posted on 12/24/2018 5:27:09 AM PST by Zakeet

Residents of New Jersey were given a deadline to turn in their gun magazines or become felons overnight, and so far, no one is complying.

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Citizens were given a December 11 deadline on their new ban on standard capacity magazines. The law effectively turned one million law abiding gun owners into criminals, literally over night if they failed to turn in the magazines.

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According to Ammoland.com, who says they spoke with multiple police departments throughout the state, no one has turned in their magazines.

According to the report:

Two sources from within the State Police, who spoke to AmmoLand on condition of anonymity, told AmmoLand News that they both do not know of any magazines turned over to their agency and doubted that any were turned in. They also stated that the State Police also engaged the AG's office for guidance on how to respond to inquiries such as ours. They were unaware if the Attorney General has returned to their request for guidance.

All the local police departments that AmmoLand contacted stated that they have not had any magazines turned into them.

AmmoLand has filed a Freedom of Information Act request with The New Jersey State Police to get an official count of the number of magazines turned in by New Jersey citizens. We will update the story if our FOIA request is fulfilled.

This act of disobedience is the only way that law-abiding citizens can effectively and peacefully fight back against the gun grabbers. And so far, it has been effective.

(Excerpt) Read more at sott.net ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; civildisobedience; guns; magazines; newjersey; nj2018
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To: BinaryBoy

This is the same thing that happened in CT. A vast majority of the magazines (Statistically) weren’t registered.

But now when you speak out against Malloy and he wants to lead an investigation into you (Which he is known to do.. Lamont and Blumenthal as well) they’ll find it and incarcerate you.

How many were turned in is not the point here. And the low numbers show “resistance” but it also shows exactly what the state wants.. To jail us.


21 posted on 12/24/2018 6:03:19 AM PST by Celerity
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To: familyop

this is why firearm confiscation will never happen in america


22 posted on 12/24/2018 6:11:34 AM PST by exnavy
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To: CatOwner
"Half the country (or more!) will see little problem with that. :frown:"

The "other half", though, will see a BIG problem with that. And that is mainly the "well-armed militia" half....

23 posted on 12/24/2018 6:15:25 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: Zakeet

Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.

Atlas Shrugged


24 posted on 12/24/2018 6:18:34 AM PST by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Electrified grates on windows, too.


25 posted on 12/24/2018 6:18:42 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: traderrob6
Better yet, 1 million people ought to turn themselves in but NOT there magazines and enter a plea of NOT GUILTY. See how the system deals with a million people all with a “right to a speedy trial trial”

Genius.

26 posted on 12/24/2018 6:20:02 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Zakeet

Give them Hell Jersey


27 posted on 12/24/2018 6:20:17 AM PST by Sir Beowolf (Beware! it's a different world,The Republic is crying for Help.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Yes you can destroy them, you could give them to somebody out of state, you could store them. The storage is ridiculous, usual places allowed to store them charge $1.25 each per month, for the magazines that Cabela’s sells for $7.99 new.


28 posted on 12/24/2018 6:26:04 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Sir Beowolf

New Jersey because hell is full.


29 posted on 12/24/2018 6:49:22 AM PST by Midnitethecat (St)
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To: kearnyirish2

As is all blue states. My eyes are on California.


30 posted on 12/24/2018 6:52:24 AM PST by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: Zakeet

Once again, in the face of gun control laws, be sure to advocate for “common sense socialism control”. It’s for the children.

It is common sense that we do not permit socialism in our schools. School and government buildings need to be marked as “socialism free zones”.

Socialists need to be licensed by the state, and checked against a federal database to insure that they are not socialism offenders or mentally ill.

Readers should only be able to buy one socialist book a week, from a licensed Class III socialist book dealer.

All socialist paraphernalia must be marked with warning labels listing the crimes and homicide associated with socialism.


31 posted on 12/24/2018 7:02:01 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("There is no 'try' only sasuga!")
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To: Leaning Right; DaiHuy

“Nope, said the Supreme Court in 1970. The 6th Amendment only applies for an offense carrying a penalty of 6 months or more imprisonment. That was a terrible, terrible ruling, and somehow it still stands to this day.

So all New Jersey has to do is charge those folks with some kind of crime carrying a penalty of 6 months imprisonment or less. Then you can ask for a jury all day long. You won’t get one. Your fate is completely in the hands of some establishment judge.


Failure to obey this law is a 4th degree felony, punishable by up to 18 months in prison and a fine of up to $10,000. Per count.

Someone wants a jury trial in this kind if case, they get it.

By the way, when I left New Jersey nearly 20 years ago, I let my wife know when we crossed the border into Delaware that she would no longer have to bail me out of jail. She asked why, and I explained this law (then for over 15 round mags) to her. She asked me how many I had, and I responded that sitting about 18 inches behind my ass was approximately 200 years worth in Rahway State Prison. She turned white as a sheet and said nothing for about 30 seconds, and then inquired as to whether Texas had any laws like this. Fortunately, then and now, I can report that Texas is in America, so there are no laws like that.


32 posted on 12/24/2018 7:06:52 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Zakeet

With NJ’s logic, you could be arrested on your way to turn them in after the ban goes into effect.


33 posted on 12/24/2018 7:10:22 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Ancesthntr

> Failure to obey this law is a 4th degree felony, punishable by up to 18 months in prison and a fine of up to $10,000. Per count. <

I’ve thought about that. I’m no lawyer. But I wonder if NJ could find some way to work around that. “Your honor, we will only ask for a maximum 6 month sentence.” If that flies, then no jury trial.

Side story: The Feds wanted Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio neutralized. So they charged him with an offense that carried a maximum 6 month sentence. Joe asked for a jury trial. He didn’t get it.


34 posted on 12/24/2018 7:17:44 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Zakeet

Laws like this will be enforced when an owner of an illegal magazine is investigated for any crime resulting in the search of his premises. Perhaps even convicting him of the illegal possession of magazines in a plea bargain opting out of an expensive trial for a greater crime.


35 posted on 12/24/2018 7:19:28 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: Leaning Right

No, it is the maximum potential penalty that governs. That’s what also loses you the right to vote or own guns, even if the sentence is for one day.


36 posted on 12/24/2018 7:25:50 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

What passes as New Jersey Urban Camo? Trench-coat for winter?


37 posted on 12/24/2018 7:26:07 AM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: BinaryBoy

This is what RESIST is all about. To my last breath.


38 posted on 12/24/2018 7:57:26 AM PST by MGunny
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To: Zakeet
With a million newly minted felons in New Jersey, it must now top New York (SAFE Act) and Kalifornia (illegal aliens, voter fraud) for lawlessness.

New Jersey needs a lot more prisons to handle these scofflaws. Better yet, build some gulags. They can hold more people more cheaply even though they aren't nearly as comfy. It will serve the kulaks, hooligans, and wreckers right!

39 posted on 12/24/2018 8:38:23 AM PST by Gritty (How much blood is Swallwell prepared to shed for his goal of disarming Normal Americans?-K Schlicter)
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To: Sicon

It’ll be a “tack-on” charge I’m sure. I’m sure the fine will be astronomical, and as you say, will muddy the waters in a self-defense situation.


40 posted on 12/24/2018 9:50:33 AM PST by Tallguy
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